Zion and the Art of Armageddon

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JohnD said:
Thank you for confirming that in your opinion, Israeli propaganda is "truth," and the UN, CNN, children's charities, Reuters, the BBC, the FT, the Pope, the Jerusalem Post and American volunteer surgeons are not.

You have nailed your colours to the mast.

I withdraw my working hypothesis.
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John, you have to look at all of the facts as you yourself has suggested. I like others including yourself can only form an opinion based on what we are told and what we get to see. I have said repeatedly that I am forming an unbiased opinion based on the above criteria. I agree whole heartedly that innocent people are being killed and I am sure that palestinians are going hungry and are in need of aid. I can also see that hamas is the biggest news source coming out of Gaza and so we have to look at the evidence carefully before making a judgement based on the assumption that both sides will lie.
 
JohnD said:
And already it has turned back again,
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No not at all, I have seen the IDF acting irresponsibly and commiting war crimes and I am completely against this, my support of the IDF is waining because I can see a way in how they could evade some of the innocent people being killed. I still support their efforts in taking down hamas but it is increasingly difficult to support the way it is being done.
 
Aid workers in gaza ordered Domino's Pizza from Israel and then drive it into Gaza.
But Israel is not letting UN food trucks in.
 
JohnD said:
I can see you are not familiar with what the Balfour declaration actually said.

That's very common among supporters of Israel who make the mistake of believing what they say.
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I see you are not familiar with Hamas stated aims

That’s very common amongst supporters of Hamas (?) who make the mistake of believing there propaganda
 
The UKs and others stance legitimises hamas using civilians as human shields

Some thing they have done for years
 
denso13 said:
Hamas are a terrorist organisation.

But they are not responsible for Israeli war crimes.
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Yes in part they are ;)

They have been using there population for years
Inviting violence on civilians

Laying on buses to take them to the border knowing full well there will be causalities

Hiding in hospitals knowing full well that the building could be targeted
 
transam said:
Yes in part they are ;)

They have been using there population for years
Inviting violence on civilians

Laying on buses to take them to the border knowing full well there will be causalities

Hiding in hospitals knowing full well that the building could be targeted
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Israeli propaganda.
 
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