Neighbours boiler safety becasue of my new build.

[scoobydo123]

My 2p worth

Mr porch has built his porch Mr next door has since developed a fault on his boiler (not related to Mr Porch actions). Mr gas safe comes out and notices the flue is not to MI and walks away. Mr next door still has faulty boiler and no repair as Mr gas safe says too close to porch. Really what we have is a nuisance plume and a boiler with a fault. Question then is if porch was not there the boiler would have been fixed but would Mr gas safe say too close to neighbour I very much doubt. I haven't read whole thread so if I have missed how close this actually is and whether it is perpendicular or not please ignore more post.

Answers on a postcard ?

 

[denso13]

I'd say Mr Builder (of porch) has breached Health and Safety at Work Act. Open and shut case

 

[mickyg]

I'd say Mr Builder (of porch) has breached Health and Safety at Work Act. Open and shut case

funny you should say that. Ive just browsed this whole thread and the whole thing seems to be neighbour v neighbour when its in fact builder vs neighbour. The OP hasn't done anything wrong unless they personally built the porch, but I imagine a builder did the work and is he who has breached the regs in regards to making a boiler dangerous. The op has nothing to worry about

 

[Weedrip]

"So I guess, if Mr Porch had applied for a planning permission and indicated Mr Flue's flue, they they may have rejected that plan there and then or issued a notice to mr Flue to move his flue if they were wise about that flue should not be there in the first place."

Planning permission and building control are two separate parts of the system. sadly I would very much doubt that that a planning officer would have the technical knowledge of any breach of gas regs in respect to the a wrongly sited flue. Nor is it a requirement to indicate such on a planning application. These would be the sort of things they might / are supposed to see for themselves first hand, when they make a site inspection prior to determining an application. If the application as indicated by the OP was in fact determined as permitted development then it is possible that they did not make a site visit.

Building Control inspector however ought to be aware of such a transgression but again probably did not notice it or perhaps could not be bothered or did not wish to become involved. However depending on the size of the porch they may not even have been concerned [altho I would be surprised] as presumably at the least a footings and oversite inspection followed by a plate and roof stage. with a final to sign it off would have been the min involvement at least.

As for builders now having breached health and safety law, not aware the op had a builder, they don't mention one. Again if it was a small porch it is possible that it was subbed out on trade basis.
In my general understanding even then they would not pass the buck as you cannot delegate a duty so imposed. I am afraid I do not see how anybody can interpret the situation with so little real facts.

As for charging lawyers and bankers sadly I am stupid and only have one rate... little old ladies and them professional class all pay the same but the barstewrds are ok they give me drinks while I regale to them how poor I am.

 

[taz123]

I think you've all been had.

The op with a grand total of one post has not even had the decency to reply to requests of photos/drawings/sketches.

Hit and run springs to mind.

I must admit it made for an interesting read and an interesting scenario.

It was also of interest to see the differences in interpretation of the rules and regs and possible weaknesses within those.

 

[Mikefromlondon]

I have got a funny feeling that he may be celebrating his Christmas in a hospital bed, with a broken nose, black eyes, he slipped from his porch roof as he didn't anticipate that his neighbor's boiler flue had been spewing condensation and this formed water on his newly build porch and it became wet and he slipped of it, or his neighbor punched his nose in when he tried to block his flue!

 

[lcfcstu]

you are talking complete crap & clearly have no clue when it comes to the regs, it is the neighbours that have had their boiler incorrectly installed so it is completely down to them to have the flue altered

Be interesting to know what gassafe or the HSE have to say about it.

I've been in a potential similar situation before and all they said when we checked before commencing was, 'go on what the manufacturers instructions say'

Ive only read the first two pages so dont know how this ended yet, but couldn't a plume management kit be fitted instead of a vertical flue?

 

[doitall]

A plume kit still wouldn't satisfy the regs.

 

[kevindgas]

http://www.potterton.co.uk/docs/Potterton_Performa.pdf

all the info is readily available for the installation (page 9 relates to flue positions)

 

[Agile]

The simple answer is that without the details of the boiler model and detailed photos or drawings none of us know what is and is not possible to be done to solve the problem.

So unusual for one post and then to say nothing!

Tony

 

[CBF]

A plume kit still wouldn't satisfy the regs.

i disagree if the elbow at the top can be angled to provide the 600mm distance to the boundary then this will comply

 

[doitall]

A plume kit still wouldn't satisfy the regs.

i disagree if the elbow at the top can be angled to provide the 600mm distance to the boundary then this will comply

Agreed but it's only 200mm to the boundary, there's no way you get it to comply with the regs.

 

[CBF]

A plume kit still wouldn't satisfy the regs.

i disagree if the elbow at the top can be angled to provide the 600mm distance to the boundary then this will comply

Agreed but it's only 200mm to the boundary, there's no way you get it to comply with the regs.

i agree that might not be possible, but as most of us have said without anymore info, drawings or pics we are all just shooting in the dark & as the OP hasn't even got the common decency to reply after 6 pages i think this is the last post I'm going to make on this thread

 

[joe-90]

It's a set up.

 

[Mikefromlondon]

what if he might have been overcome by CO fumes from his neighbor's flue whilst admiring his newly build porch!