Things getting a bit silly at Wickes!

[EFLImpudence]

CED from Toolstation are fairly stiff and ...

here's a few pages worth:

I suppose they could replace the door with the same material.

 

[stillp]

Not conformant to the correct standard then! 60439-3 was withdrawn in 2012.

 

[EFLImpudence]

Fair enough. Is 61439-3 relevantly different?

 

[stillp]

In what way? It is a different standard.

 

[EFLImpudence]

I don't know. Are you saying no plastic CUs comply with 61439-3?

 

[stillp]

Are you saying no plastic CUs comply with 61439-3?

No, far from it, I'm saying they should! Conformity to 60439-3 does not necessarily mean conformity to 61439-3.

 

[EFLImpudence]

I cannot find any plastic ones which state they conform to 61439-3 - still all 60439-3.

So, non-combustible or not - still not compliant with Amd 3.

 

[stillp]

still not compliant with Amd 3

Nor with 133.1.1.

 

[kai]

Newey and Eyre are still charging GBP 75.00. plus v.a.t. for a 10 way plastic Dual RCD Wylex board at present. (NO breakers).

 

[muggles]

£30 including 10 MCB's and two RCD's? Are they using Chinese counterfeits?

£27 if you use your trade discount there

 

[ban-all-sheds]

Ahh the good old tell tale sign of a domestic electrician working in a commercial environment.

Be that as it may, have you never in your whole working life seen one pub, one café, one hairdressers, one small office etc with a plastic CU?

 

[ban-all-sheds]

I've also seen stuff like this. Just because it exists, doesn't make it rightView attachment 93830

Maybe not, but that's not what you said.

It's always been metal in commercial / industrial jobs.

Personally I'm glad to see the back of all these crappy plastic boards.

Do you have a sound, engineering-based case which shows why a plastic CU in a barber's shop, or in the two rooms comprising the reception and office of a garage, for example, is unacceptable?

 

[RF Lighting]

No I don't. You're absolutely right. I should be lashing in crappy plastic CUs on every job I do rather than doing the job properly like I was taught by several electricians with hundreds of years of experience between them.

I'll get on to my rep at the wholesalers in the morning and ask them to start stocking plastic TP&N dist boards.

 

[333rocky333]

I agree with RF in a way, when I started, pubs wouldnt get a music and dance license if wired in T+E, I recall a right scene once when someone spurred a T+E off a pyro ring main, they were threatened to be shut down till it was sorted and in comercial it was rare to even see T+E anywhere, one of the main reasons metal was used, I suppose was to ease terminating, pyro, conduit , swa Etc.
The recent influx of plastic seemed to start when people opted for T+E, FP and YY flex instals, same as the demise of Bus bar chambers and metal switchfused submains, being replaced with MCB supplies with little discrimanation, in my view standards have gone downhill and i dont feel its just Domestic contracters and also people dont tend to want to pay out for quality.

 

[333rocky333]

Are they using Chinese counterfeits?

My local wickes