Patrick knocking Boris

[vinty]

Come on, he said that the taxpayer has to pick up the social costs of factory workers.

That's perfectly plain.

Is it true?

I didn't say that, i said that the taxpayer has to pick up the social costs of the families of foreign nationals who have chosen to bring their families with them, it isn't the same is it?.
British factory workers are born here along with their families, they are part of the national fabric.
Nothing wrong with foreigners or their families but that shouldn't imply that every Tom ,Dick or Ali should have the automatic right to turn up in Britain and expect to be treated the same as the natives.

 

[vinty]

That's a croc of s hit!

Have a squidge at EU Directive 2004/38...

Linky


Another croc of s hit!

EU nationals have the same rights as the indigenous population if they meet the criteria under the freedom of movement rules. And that is reciprocal across the 28 (for now) countries.

And that is why the sooner the UK gets the feck out of the EU the better.

 

[ellal]

And that is why the sooner the UK gets the feck out of the EU the better.

That's another croc of s hit!

(and there you were saying 'there is nothing in the legislation blah blah'... )

But hey, we're used to quitters spouting lies or being ignorant of the facts when mouthing off

 

[JohnD]

quitters spouting lies or being ignorant of the facts

I wonder which vinty was doing when he made his false claim.

 

[JohnD]

I didn't say that, i said that the taxpayer has to pick up the social costs of the families of foreign nationals who have chosen to bring their families with them, it isn't the same is it?

no, this is what you said

Just bringing people in to work in factories and leaving the social costs of health and housing to be picked up by the taxpayer is a joke,

your pedals are whizzing backwards.

 

[ellal]

I wonder which vinty was doing when he made his false claim.

I tend to find that quitters often don't know the difference themselves, given the blinkers they tend to wear...

And when the truth is pointed out they tend to stick their fingers in their ears and go around endlessly chanting 'la-la-la' in the hope that the truth goes away!

 

[vinty]

That's another croc of s hit!

But hey, we're used to quitters spouting lies or being ignorant of the facts when mouthing off

Be honest ellal, have you yourself read all that stuff about the EU which you posted in the linky above.
If you did then you deserve the title of anorak of the year.
Let's cut to the chase, people are fed up with the EU and want out.
If the people are going to be cheated and ripped off, then I presume that they would rather it be by their own folk.
There is something undignified about being ripped off by foreigners.

 

[JohnD]

 

[vinty]

That's interesting. Show me the legislation you have in mind. I'd be interested to see it. Yours is obviously different from DIRECTIVE 2004/38/EC OF THE EUROPEAN PARLIAMENT AND OF THE COUNCIL of 29 April 2004.

I'd also be interested to see why you are convinced that a foreign factory worker, paying tax and NI, is a great drain on the public purse, and an English or Irish factory worker, isn't.

Who gives a toss what the EU parliament directs, they have no mandate in the UK.

 

[ellal]

Be honest ellal, have you yourself read all that stuff about the EU which you posted in the linky above.
If you did then you deserve the title of anorak of the year.

Give that Brexit directly affects my family, then I have read every sub-clause...

That doesn't make me an 'anorak', that makes me informed!

There is a phrase which also suits the general outlook of quitters...'Assumption is the mother of all f uck ups'

Let's cut to the chase, people are fed up with the EU and want out.
If the people are going to be cheated and ripped off, then I presume that they would rather it be by their own folk.
There is something undignified about being ripped off by foreigners.

So will you enjoy getting ripped off by the US/China/India in your brave new world?

Or are they 'different/ok types of foreigners'?

 

[ellal]

Who gives a toss what the EU parliament directs, they have no mandate in the UK.

This gets better by the minute...

Lies/Ignorance, now denial...

Keep it up - you're on a roll

 

[JohnD]

Be honest

Ah, the irony!

 

[vinty]

A majority of the UK voted to leave the the EU, that means any stuff the EU come out with is null and void.
Talk is cheap, when it comes to the crunch the foreigners will lose their bottle, just wait and see,
The way Barnier and Co treated Theresa May in Salzburg was out of order, I don't like the Tories but she is still the British PM.

 

[JohnD]

....

constant torrent of lies, ignorance, and abuse.


you'd better go to bed now.

 

[ellal]

A majority of the UK voted to leave the the EU, that means any stuff the EU come out with is null and void.

No, the majority of people who voted expressed a preference to leave.

That led to the triggering of Article 50, but we haven't left yet so the same laws/rules apply.

Even when we leave the UK has chosen to abide by the same rules/laws for a transition period...

Jeez, it is easier explaining this to year 1 students than you!