Skills needed for newbuild compared to refurbishing old?

I know of a development of flats that have got brick but is "wooden framed"
 
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I know of a development of flats which are not cheap but they've got brick on the outside but I was told they are "wooden framed" and I didn't realize we allowed timber framed buildings in the UK, they look as if they are built from bricks but they aren't apparently. I prefer traditional build for houses I think

What the pros haven't explained yet, is this. In a brick/block build (often called traditional), the walls are the structural, load bearing elements. They hold up the weight of the walls and roof; and bear the stresses placed on the structure by wind, snow buildup etc.

In the timber frame build, the structural strength and stress management is all on the wooden box inside (where the inner skin might be in a trad house). Outside, the wooden box is clad with anything you want. Timber planking, stone, exterior fibre boarding and render, block and render or nice bricks.

You have to officially love one and hate the other:D. It's an actual rule. no really.
 
I'm guessing that this might be one of the reasons why plastic piping is more popular in newbuilds perhaps because they can get lower rate workers to assemble the central heating as opposed to £200/£300 per day tradesman
There are skill issues generally within construction, due to years of lack of training investment and lack of interest in construction trades as a career generally.

Whilst new materials are being developed and even welcome, alongside that is a move to simplify construction - which brings benefits, in terms of quality and the skillset required to do the work, plus raised production.

Plastic piping with its simple push fit connections can deal with lower skilled people being able to do the work, and thus maintain production and keep costs down, but it also potentially raises quality levels (fewer defects) and allows simpler design.

Another example, although I suspect for the wrong reasons, is that a few years ago the standards for fixing roof tiles changed. The NHBC found an increase in claims for detached roof tiles and ridges and verges. Mortar bedding was effectively banned and mechanical fixing required. But mortar fixed tiles should last as long as the roof, or at least only require one change in the life of the roof. However due to lack of skill/time/management rather than sort those issues out, the decision was made to find something easier and so standards were changed instead. You hardly see any mortar bedded tiles come off houses built prior to the 1980's, but loads come off new builds.
 
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Insulation and some other things have been enhanced but the basic principle remains the same, a method of construction that enables self build by DIYers.
 
I know of a development of flats which are not cheap but they've got brick on the outside but I was told they are "wooden framed" and I didn't realize we allowed timber framed buildings in the UK, they look as if they are built from bricks but they aren't apparently. I prefer traditional build for houses I think

A wooden frame building being built today in the UK :eek::eek::eek:
 

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I know of a development of flats which are not cheap but they've got brick on the outside but I was told they are "wooden framed" and I didn't realize we allowed timber framed buildings in the UK, they look as if they are built from bricks but they aren't apparently. I prefer traditional build for houses I think
It's becoming more and more common to build timber framed buildings in the UK. Elsewhere in the world (USA, Canada, Australia), it's by far the most common construction type for low rise buildings. To the uneducated eye it's often nearly impossible to tell the difference between a timber framed building and a traditional masonry one.

It's common for timber framed buildings to have an external skin of brick or rendered block, although not essential. If a rendered finish is required it is possible to do away with the masonry completely and render onto renderboard fixed to battens. The timber elements in residential buildings are rarely on display due to the obvious fire risk of exposed timber.

Timber frame is becoming more and more common on medium-rise buildings in this country too. I've done the structural design on a six storey block of student accommodation, but the world record is 18 (eighteen!) storeys in Norway.
https://www.theexplorer.no/stories/...tdiWo0mt23fEyS0m6sQ29kGvlDgEANORoCslQQAvD_BwE

One of the main issues with timber frame (and an area that can sometimes be overlooked by inexperienced tradesmen) is the fact that timber shrinks. I've recently had to survey two four storey blocks of flats where there were a whole host of problems evident around opening and soffits, due to insufficient shrinkage gaps being left. Considering the usual allowance is around 10mm per storey, this would lead to a required allowance of 180mm on an 18 storey building. I can only imagine there must be ways of reducing the amount of shrinkage on buildings of this size else it would be a real headache around openings.

25% of new housing in the UK is timber frame, but you'd never know by looking at it.
https://ukdiss.com/examples/increasing-popularity-surrounding-timber-frame-construction.php

I built my own timber frame extension that is rendered to match the rest of the property. I've been meaning to upload photos of it for ages!
 
My friend finally managed to get rid of his £300k one bedroom flat in which the genius who designed it thought it would be a great idea to have an open void behind the kitchen cabinets running from top to bottom of the building. Rats had the time of their life, it was like being in magaluf for them. The colony had spread to all adjacent buildings, all built by the same bodgers.
Rats coming up and down a £300,000 one bedroom flat is not what you'd expect.
 
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It's becoming more and more common to build timber framed buildings in the UK.

I think there is an inherent risk with timber frame and SIPS

the damp, vapour barrier and fire check arrangements are all highly important, yet sometimes the builders skimp on the detailing and deviate from the manufacturers / designers spec.

a vapour barrier done wrong in a masonry building is not as bad as a timber frame building where it could seriously shorten the design life of the building
 
I wasn't aware timber framed buildings were so popular
 
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