87 year old stabbed to death?!?

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Ah, yet another one who likes to conflate assertions, twist words and assume things of the poster that they know diddly squat about.

Of course the lack of robustness with our authorities in apprehending people is a factor ... show me where I said it wasn't ;)

I blame 'anyone and everyone who is different in appearance to me' ... MMmmm, do I? Again, please show me where I've done this ;)

Prejudice? I'm not prejudice ;) if you read my opening post I simply state if it transpires he's here illegally, I wonder what the apologists on the subject will have to say. You know, the people that would seem to be content to see any number of people arrive on our shores daily.
You exploited an opportunity, based on your prejudice, to have a rant about asylum seekers. That's bigotry.
 
You exploited an opportunity, based on your prejudice, to have a rant about asylum seekers. That's bigotry.
A rant?!? Oh diddums, if you think my opening post was a rant then heaven help you if you ever witness a real rant ;)
 
You exploited an opportunity, based on your prejudice, to have a rant about asylum seekers. That's bigotry.
Imagine you have to escape a war torn country. You have nothing. A country takes you in. You'd think you'd be happy just to be safe and have a modicum of shelter ...

 
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Your opening gambit.
I don't usually speak like this, however if it's discovered he's 'off a boat' I wonder what the apologists for illegal migration will have to say? They'll probably blame the government for not ensuring he was better fed and watered.

A rant?!? Oh diddums, if you think my opening post was a rant then heaven help you if you ever witness a real rant ;)
You exploited a horrendous incident to conflate asylum seekers with a violent crime.
You intimated that those seeking better solutions for asylum seekers were also making apologies and excuses for illegal immigrants.
You also suggested that anyone seeking better conditions and processing for asylum seekers were also excusing violent crime committed by anyone.
That's not just a rant, it's a whole package of incorrect assumptions and allegations rolled up into a conflation of asylum seekers with violent crime.
That's pure and unadulterated bigotry at its worst.


Imagine you have to escape a war torn country. You have nothing. A country takes you in. You'd think you'd be happy just to be safe and have a modicum of shelter "REFUGEES have been protesting living conditions of Milton Hilltop Hotel in Carlisle - saying they feel like they are 'being treated like prisoners'."
Do you think that asylum seekers are not human and their right to complain about their conditions has been forfeited?
I suggest you re-read the Universal Declaration of Human Rights.
Human rights are rights inherent to all human beings, regardless of race, sex, nationality, ethnicity, language, religion, or any other status. Human rights include the right to life and liberty, freedom from slavery and torture, freedom of opinion and expression, the right to work and education, and many more. Everyone is entitled to these rights, without discrimination.
 
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It doesn't matter whether immigrants are legal or illegal, there is no need for them to be here, we have far too many . They are unwanted and have been forced on us.

Unwanted by who?
 
Your opening gambit.

You exploited a horrendous incident to conflate asylum seekers with a violent crime.
You intimated that those seeking better solutions for asylum seekers were also making apologies and excuses for illegal immigrants.
You also suggested that anyone seeking better conditions and processing for asylum seekers were also excusing violent crime committed by anyone.
That's not just a rant, it's a whole package of incorrect assumptions and allegations rolled up into a conflation of asylum seekers with violent crime.
That's pure and unadulterated bigotry at its worst.

Do you think that asylum seekers are not human and their right to complain about their conditions has been forfeited?
I suggest you re-read the Universal Declaration of Human Rights.

Goodness you're great at giving lectures aren't you. Hey, suggestion, why don't you contact Truss and ask for a job, you seem to have ALL the knowledge on why things are f**ked and no doubt the solutions as well.

I bet you'd be comfortable with the UK accepting 10k migrants coming in daily and ensuring they're put up in 5 star luxury. My take on it is, if a country gives you shelter, assuming you're given basic reasonably clean accommodation and fed, you should be thankful. Not complaining that things aren't up to scratch.

If things aren't up to scratch for you, here's an idea. Buy a boat and get yourself back over to France. It's amazing the amount of people that bump their gums about Britain but still want to live here.
 
Anyway, the man arrested has been named - Lee Byer.
May have just got off a boat, but sounds very English.
 
Goodness you're great at giving lectures aren't you. Hey, suggestion, why don't you contact Truss and ask for a job, you seem to have ALL the knowledge on why things are f**ked and no doubt the solutions as well.

I bet you'd be comfortable with the UK accepting 10k migrants coming in daily and ensuring they're put up in 5 star luxury. My take on it is, if a country gives you shelter, assuming you're given basic reasonably clean accommodation and fed, you should be thankful. Not complaining that things aren't up to scratch.

If things aren't up to scratch for you, here's an idea. Buy a boat and get yourself back over to France. It's amazing the amount of people that bump their gums about Britain but still want to live here.
You're still ranting.
And you missed the point about being treated like prisoners. If they wanted to be treated like prisoners they could have stayed in their country of birth.
 
You're still ranting.
And you missed the point about being treated like prisoners. If they wanted to be treated like prisoners they could have stayed in their country of birth.
They've asserted they're being treated like prisoners. Has it been proven they are? Can you point me to the evidence? Or are you just taking their word for it?

If the UK isn't cutting it for them accommodation wise, they could always move on to another country?
 
They've asserted they're being treated like prisoners. Has it been proven they are? Can you point me to the evidence? Or are you just taking their word for it?

If the UK isn't cutting it for them accommodation wise, they could always move on to another country?
They're complaining. Even asylum seekers have the right to complain, although not in your world, it seems.

If or when there is an investigation into their complaints, I will indeed present it to you.
 
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