Baxi Duotec 40 HE - Tearing my hair out

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Hi folks.
Bear with me, most posts on here ask for information so here it is.

Wonder if anyone can shed any light on the problems I am having with my boiler?
And before anyone jumps to the conclusion I will be looking to fix it myself - I won't, there is a gas safe plumber coming tomorrow ( sadly whilst I am at work ), anyway...

It started with E133 error, and we awoke 2 weeks ago to having a cold house and no hot water.
I called the emergency cover number we have with house insurance and a boy came out and after 2 hours at the house ( of which about 1hr 50mins was on the phone to someone) he diagnosed the boiler as unsafe ( after he magically got it going ) and then said he should turn it off, but it was cold so he was going to leave it on for us !!
He left and I turned it off, then called a plumber locally, who came out and could not replicate the first ' plumbers ' figures at all on his meter thingy. oiler started working again and plumber 2 went away 40 quid better off and I arranged for it to be serviced ( as it is done every year ) a few days later.

Couple of days later boiler was serviced, then when put back together wouldn't work and E133 again. £80 quid for service! and he did however diagnose a faulty gas valve ( I think, worth a shot changing that! ), so I drove a round trip of 50 miles to get a genuine Baxi one at a cost of about £73 quid. This was then fitted later when plumber number 2 came back. SO far about £190 quid spent and lasted a few days. 4 days ago awoke again to error E133 - no reply from plumber 2 on facebook, or telephone call.

Whilst trying to start the boiler ( and it did reset a couple of times ) the ignition noise when calling for hot water was like a SHOTGUN going off, it really was that loud!
This sounded dangerous so I turned it off and started researching what the problem could be to chat with plumber 3 coming tomorrow.

I have opened a bleed screw and taken out some water and it is clear and left that for plumber 3 to look at ( should it be clear?)
I have ordered and had delivered a magnetic and sludge filter to be fitted and researched cleaning out the secondary heat exchanger or buying a new one to be fitted.
That filter was £90 quid so now upto about £280 quid and wonder what it will cost for plumber 3 to do this work.

E133 seems to be responsible for low gas or gas flow errors ( had a new OVO gas meter fitted 3 months ago, but only problems now?)
E133 also blamed for igniting thingies not sparking properly.
E133 also blamed for blocked DHW heat exchangers.

Did I miss anything?

Any clever gas plumber folks want to have a stab at the problems - it now wont fire up at all and tries 5 times and E133 again. It's been 4 days now and we are cold and starting to smell.
ALl help appreciated, it will be passed onto plumbers 3,4, and possibly 5.

Thanks
Eric
 
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I'm sure No10 will sort it.....
You seem to go through a lot of plumbers???
Why don't you leave well alone and hopefully the 1st RGI you call will get it sorted ......unlike these fictitious plumbers of yours..
 
You wait 4 days for a repair knowing the weekend was upon you????
 
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I'm sure No10 will sort it.....
You seem to go through a lot of plumbers???
Why don't you leave well alone and hopefully the 1st RGI you call will get it sorted ......unlike these fictitious plumbers of yours..
Number 1 didnt have a clue. He said it was dangerous, then left it running and buggered off back to pre school. Why would you do that?

Number 2 got it running, stated he didnt like boiler repairs and when it error133 again never returned my call or messages. I waited hoping he would. Number 3 came recommended but is very busy.

If either rgi knew what the problem actually was instead of chucking my money at guesses id be a warm and happy bunny.
Clueless.
 
I'm sure No10 will sort it.....
You seem to go through a lot of plumbers???
Why don't you leave well alone and hopefully the 1st RGI you call will get it sorted ......unlike these fictitious plumbers of yours..

Fictitious plumbers?
You are clearly an idiot.
Hopefully ...
I hope number 3 has a clue, 1 certainly didnt . funny how no comment about leaving a supposed dangerous appliance lit!
Moron
 
Eric, go easy on sarcasm. You are here to get free advice from people who charge for it. Gas wizard is one such person.

First rule of owning a boiler is to get it serviced AS PER THE INSTRUCTIONS, nothing less perhaps more. For service I would follow stepped instructions specified for your boiler and would not be surprised if the service guy rectifies the malfunction during this exercise

Guys that only fit boilers do not need to know what or how the boiler functions
Guys the repair 'em will not need to prevaricate as you have supplied enough information for chap to go straight to the component causing the problem

By the way, dangerous appliance shut itself off by showing you code 133:ROFLMAO:
 
Why not phone your emergency cover company and ask them to send a man ,not a boy ? It's what you're paying for
 
funny how no comment about leaving a supposed dangerous appliance lit
......although you carried on using the appliance regardless....until such time the appliance failed to ignite...
Why would I comment on something I haven't seen?
 
You seem to have been contributing to your problems by rushing off to buy a replacement gas valve.

To me that is strange because the usual procedure is for the RGI to buy any parts required. Perhaps it was a cheap one being sold on Ebay? Most GVs seem to cost more like £100. A firm called Parts Center have branches in most major cities.

A simple and cost capped solution is to have a fixed price repair from Baxi at about £300 ! They repair these boilers every day and are well experienced at common faults like yours.

Although it would be generally cheaper to have a good local independent who specialises in repairs if you can find one.

Tony
 
funny how no comment about leaving a supposed dangerous appliance lit
......although you carried on using the appliance regardless....until such time the appliance failed to ignite...
Why would I comment on something I haven't seen?

The first RGI , said it was unsafe due to exhaust levels , then left it turned on and left after stating it was unsafe!!
I immediately turned it off and called another gas man - I had faith in the fact that he didn't know what he was doing and wasn't taking chances with my families lives.
Plumber number 2 - diagnosed the faulty valve, and said if I picked it up from the merchants he would fit it when I returned that afternoon - that's what happened.
He fitted that and it worked for a while before E133 again. He didn't return my calls or message. ( shame i've known him years and he has serviced it every year )
Plumber number 3 has been recommended to me by family as knowing what she is doing - which will make a change upto yet with this fault.
She is coming round tonight when I am at work.
All this info is clearly stated in the Original post.

Maybe combi boilers are too difficult for plumbers to diagnose and fix.
Upto yet no one on here has offered any suggestion to rectify the issue - maybe you have no isea yourselves.
I certainly don't i'm not a gas 'engineer' I just put my faith in people that profess to know.
 
The guys on here will know what the problem is although we are not allowed to offer any gas advice due to forum rules..lol..
Terribly sorry old bean....gotta go as just about to jump into a hot bath....i wish she'd turn the bloody heating down as its stifling.
 
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The guys on here will know what the problem is although we are not allowed to offer any gas advice due to forum rules..lol..
Terribly sorry old bean.

I will see if it's fixed when I get home and then based on three Gas safe folks looking at it, and hopefully one will have actually fixed it, I would summise 33% of RGI's know how to fix these things. Either that , or as a previous comment above, folks charge for this advice..
They also charge for " fixing " stuff that doesn't actually fix it, yet laugh and patronize genuine folks asking for assistance, after supposed gas professionals haven't a clue.
 
Two guys couldn't fix it so lets hope 3rd time lucky when she turns up...fancy a wager???.....you got a wooly jumper to the ready!!!
 

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