We can't deport the home grown problem (though we could train them to do trades like we used to), but we SHOULD be able to refuse entry to those that have no realistic expectation of finding employment in a modern society. Do you agree? If not. then why not?
Blimey, talk about ganging up to hurl abusive comments. 'Cos let's face it, that's all they were, four pages of abuse and not a scrap of real evidence in any of those posts. Just urban myths and racially motivated biases.
I don't consider biased newspaper reports as hard evidence. They are exactly that, sensationalism. It's what sells newspapers and you lot buy 'em to garner some vague hope of reinforcing your biases.
At least noseall referred to a real hard piece of evidence: immigration has been good for UK. So many millions of jobs created, lower unemployment amongst indigenous workers, etc.
If immigration was stopped tomorrow, some major infrastructue organisations would struggle to maintain staffing levels. For instance, I suspect the NHS to have something over 50% immigrant workers, that's first generation immigrants. If we considered 2nd and 3rd generation immigrants, I suspect the figure would be closer to 90%. And of course if we went any further back, the % of "indigenous workers" would be infinitesimally small.
To address joe's point precisely: when we train kids in school, can we, could we screen out those that will go on to higher and geater things and discard those that will end up as ne'er-do-wells? Of course we can't. Similarly, we could allow only highly skilled/qualified immigrants to enter UK. Who's to say that those new immigrants will use their high intelligence, high qualifications for the benefit of society or not. Of course we can't, we can only hope, just like we do with any bright kids in school.
But the rules do try to accomodate some discrimination (using the word in its literal sense, not in its racial sense) by setting some time limits before any social welfare can be claimed, just like other EU countries. For those that claim other EU countries apply rules and we don't. Check your facts first, there are rules, may be different rules, but they are there.
Additionally, when you see a non-white person, or hear a non-UK accent on the street, you have no idea whether they are 1st, or 2nd generation immigrant, or even further removed from the original immigrant. They may have been born here, get used to it! They have as much right to be here as you! And they probably have a more level headed attitude than you and will probably go on to greater achievements than you. Some pobably already have.
Moreoever, there are so many kids these days from mixed parentage, that I suspect that pure British, or even anglo-saxon is a myth.
There's probably loads of others that you assume are indigenous because of their skin colour, yet they originate from caucasion countries. Therefore you form the flawed perception that non-white, non-UK accents are responsible for the social ills of UK. In reality you have no idea where your neighbour, or their parents, or their grandparents originated from.
Joe suggested we refuse entry to those that have no hope of finding work. Yeah, that'll work.
You can come to work but you can't bring your kids or your misses with you. And leave the pets, you can't bring them.
You're all fitting nicely into the categories of "long-term depression" or "hard-pressed anxiety". You're resenting the competition for social welfare payments or you're serial strugglers.
BTW, I see Dex was drunk rather early. At least that's what I assume, judging by his own admissions, because he resorted to the use of discriminatoy terms.
What hope for our education system when the teachers lose control?
BTW, I'm pleased to see joe out of his shell and flying
his flag again.
