The rest of us did (and that was all sockets including those not likely to be used outside) and also electric showers etc.
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I do believe you are incorrect.
With respect to socket outlets My BLUE OSG for the 16th (includes AMD 1) says
RCDs must be used on:
- socket outlets circuits in TT systems
- on all socket outlets that may reasonably be expected to supply portable equipment used outdoors
- socket outlets in a room...........containing a shower cubical
I can go and dig out the full 16th regs book, but I am certain that is says the same.
I'm not incorrect. I never stated that it was REQUIRED for all socket outlets. I said that's what everyone with a modicum of common sense did.
In that case, times have probably changed. My impression is that, today, a high proportion of electricians do whatever the OSG suggests, regardless of considerations of common sense.
Kind Regards, John
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I do hope that we are not heading into a BASgate situation here!
MAybe my computer misses out some of the words that you have typed, but nowhere do i see that you stated "that's what everyone with a modicum of common sense did."
You have not said anything like it.
You challenged scousespark's post where he said
Note, he quite clearly states his recollection is under the regulations in force at the time. Not the OSG, not best practise, not even common sense.
Under the 16th all socket circuits did not require RCD protection, with the exception of the instances that I listed above. Please give me the reg number in the 16th that says otherwise. I have my copy right here.
If you read what I stated it was that almost everyone did it for all socket outlets. That is not the same as suggesting that there was any requirement for this. If you cannot see this then there is little hope for you.
Most of the developed world would have been appalled at the notion of not RCD protecting any domestic socket circuits for about the last 30 years! It is a case where the IEE Wiring Regulations have been behind accepted good practice in other places.
Across the border I would be expected to issue a "Notice of Potential Hazard" (similar to an Electrical Danger Notification) if I found socket outlets not protected by a 30mA RCD and where the owner declined having one fitted.
In the days of the 16th, lots of people had a RCD-protected socket next to the back door, for use in the garden, and/or the garage, for use on the car.
RCBOs were not used much, so it was often the easiest and cheapest way, with little risk of nuisance trips, for sockets that could reasonably be expected...
Maybe it was different in Londonderry.
RCBOs were not used much, so it was often the easiest and cheapest way, with little risk of nuisance trips, for sockets that could reasonably be expected...
Maybe it was different in Londonderry.
All sockets. There's no wriggle room there, no qualification, no "almost everyone".
The bit before CLEARLY STATES THAT THE REST OF US DID THIS. NOWHERE, NOWHERE, NOWHERE DOES IT STATE THAT IT WAS A REQUIREMENT OF BS7671:2001
I base it on what all contractors here did, or at least 95% of them.
RCDs are not as new a concept as some here would wish to claim.
Did you really know 95% of the contractors in your part of the world - or, at least, know what 'they did'?
Kind Regards, John
Yes.
quite a small town. Nice to hear they were all so sociable.
About 29 firms, is it?
http://www.192.com/businesses/search/
About 29 firms, is it?
http://www.192.com/businesses/search/
Who have you seen making such a claim?
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Interesting question. I first had RCDs in the 70s, so it's certainly not me who has claimed that they are a 'new concept'
Kind Regards, John
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