If believing in honesty and fair play makes someone a fascist, thats OK.
Putin solves another problem
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You interpret government control of the media with 15 year jail terms for contradicting the MoD as honesty and fair play?
See my previous post.
Well, it happens here all the time, so fair enough. I made that up. Vinty-like.You interpret government control of the media with 15 year jail terms for contradicting the MoD as honesty and fair play?
See my previous post.
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quoting the BBC now that is funny
What’s funny about it ?
How do you know that.
The BBC doesn't seem to have a problem operating in Russia.
BBC to resume English language reporting in Russia | BBC | The Guardian
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The Russians must be a very tolerant people to allow an organisation like the BBC to broadcast at all, given its reputation of relentless negativity towards anything Russian
I see your "news" is less than a year old. Already you are reading an article from
Tue 8 Mar 2022 13.27 EST
Pop back when (if?) you have anything useful to say.
Here we are
An example.
https://www.ft.com/content/f487fb5a-42c9-4720-8fd7-658d18045520
‘If there’s a war, call it a war’: Russia’s relentless crackdown on free speech
Polina Ivanova in Moscow and St Petersburg 9 HOURS AGO
“To prove my innocence, all you have to do is open the constitution and read it.” Standing in the metal cage of a Siberian courtroom, Russian journalist Maria Ponomarenko this week closed her trial, triggered by a social media post about the war in Ukraine, by dismissing the entire process as a sham. “What is happening to our country? If there’s a war, call it a war,” she told the judge.
The next day, Ponomarenko, a mother of two, was sentenced to six years, becoming the first journalist imprisoned under Russia’s tough new censorship laws, which include a ban on the word “war”.
Across Russia, hundreds of other cases related to antiwar speech and protests are now going through the courts, making the past 12 months the worst period for political repression in the country’s modern history.
Around 20,000 people were detained for political and antiwar protests last year, according to human rights group OVD-Info."
"Skochilenko was arrested in April for an act of protest in St Petersburg, replacing price tags in a supermarket with ones that bore antiwar messages. One read: “Russian conscripts are being sent to Ukraine.” This, the state’s linguistic experts said, was false information since it could not be found on the website of Russia’s defence ministry. At this point only professional troops were sent to the front, according to an official position that quickly unravelled. “It’s nonsense,” Nepovinnova said. “How can it be false information, if even the Russian president himself has since confirmed that it happened?” For what her lawyer called a “farcical” situation, Skochilenko has already spent almost a year in jail. If she is found guilty, she faces up to 10 years in total."
"Ponomarenko’s crime was posting about the shelling of a theatre in Mariupol, a port city in southern Ukraine. In September, Ponomarenko’s media outlet reported that the journalist had attempted suicide while in pre-trial detention. Lawyers for the protesters have started calling in witnesses in an attempt to prove certain truths about the war."
'The Archbishop of the Apostolic Orthodox Church, which is separate from the Moscow Patriarchate, agreed to speak in the case of a 22-year-old Moscow university student who faces up to 10 years for “false” posts about the destruction of Mariupol last spring, among other topics. Since the activist priest had spent many months supporting refugees from Mariupol in Russia, he simply told the court what he had heard from them: that their city suffered destruction. “So you didn’t actually see it with your own eyes, did you?” the prosecution replied, according to a transcript of the exchange published by news outlet Mediazona. At the same time, the Kremlin is openly extolling its programmes to rebuild destroyed Mariupol, which is now under Russian occupation. “There is an absurdity to it,” Father Gregory said."
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Everybody lies and does bad things.
Putin's lot, particularly.
OK.
Next?
Putin's lot, particularly.
OK.
Next?
The first causality of war is the truth.
America and NATO have reneged on agreements regarding missiles and troops near Russian borders. The Ukraine also reneged on the first and second Minsk agreements. The US had a hand in the 2014 coup in Ukraine where shortly afterwards, the Russian language was not recognised in the new constitution. This was yet another affront to the many Russian speaking citizens of the Donbass. These insults to the Russian speaking , and Russian loyal population were followed by civil war where civilians in the Donbass were shelled and bombed by the Ukrainians.
Russia has a grievance against Ukraine dating back to the Second World War where Ukrainian army units sided with the Nazis and rounded up thousands of Ukrainian Jews and sent them to extermination. Whilst later the Russian forces as part of the allies , helped finish the Nazis.
Our enemy is not Russia it’s the USA
America and NATO have reneged on agreements regarding missiles and troops near Russian borders. The Ukraine also reneged on the first and second Minsk agreements. The US had a hand in the 2014 coup in Ukraine where shortly afterwards, the Russian language was not recognised in the new constitution. This was yet another affront to the many Russian speaking citizens of the Donbass. These insults to the Russian speaking , and Russian loyal population were followed by civil war where civilians in the Donbass were shelled and bombed by the Ukrainians.
Russia has a grievance against Ukraine dating back to the Second World War where Ukrainian army units sided with the Nazis and rounded up thousands of Ukrainian Jews and sent them to extermination. Whilst later the Russian forces as part of the allies , helped finish the Nazis.
Our enemy is not Russia it’s the USA
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