Shower pump plugged into lighting circuit

[JohnW2]

So, yeah, it's hot alright. Never did feel the old when when it was operating. Maybe they all do get that hot.

Interesting, and surpriisng. I can't see why they should get that hot, particularly when there is water at probably half of that temperature circulating through it.

Kind Regards, John

 

[ban-all-sheds]

So, don't know if it makes a difference to the debate, but if I'm the only person using this socket....

It doesn't makes any difference - the debate has moved on from being about your socket.

Which is fine, BTW - perfectly allowable and no reason whatsoever to worry about it.

 

[ban-all-sheds]

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[gsf600y]

It doesn't makes any difference - the debate has moved on from being about your socket.

I'd noticed My popcorn has run out.

 

[ban-all-sheds]

Popcorn?

Raw meat is what you want.

 

[winston1]

Where's the reg for that then?

Are you saying I cannot run a length of 1mm² cable, with a 6A MCB to power a set of smoke alarms?

You crazy person.

Yes. I'm not the crazy person, the person who wrote the regs is.

 

[winston1]

Smokes, fans, doorbell transformers, clocks, these all run off lighting circuits. Are they disallowed as well?

Apparently yes, because they are not lights. Don't ask me why, I didn't write the regs.

 

[winston1]

It doesn't makes any difference - the debate has moved on from being about your socket.

Which is fine, BTW - perfectly allowable and no reason whatsoever to worry about it.

It is still wrong by the way.

 

[ban-all-sheds]

Yes. I'm not the crazy person, the person who wrote the regs is.

You could not be more wrong.

 

[ban-all-sheds]

Apparently yes, because they are not lights. Don't ask me why, I didn't write the regs.

There is no way that you will get away with that.

Of course you must be asked why you refuse to agree with what the Wiring Regulations say, and of course you must answer.

 

[ban-all-sheds]

It is still wrong by the way.

Please explain why the Wiring Regulations are wrong, and you are right.

 

[winston1]

There is no way that you will get away with that.

Of course you must be asked why you refuse to agree with what the Wiring Regulations say, and of course you must answer.

The regulations say that 1.0mm cable can only be used for lights.

 

[ban-all-sheds]

Don't lights use any power?

 

[Risteard]

The regulations say that 1.0mm cable can only be used for lights.

No they don't - they state lighting circuits only and not lights only. I believe it can be argued that a circuit predominantly for lighting is a lighting circuit although I agree that a circuit exclusively supplying smoke alarms cannot.

 

[JohnW2]

No they don't - they state lighting circuits only and not lights only. I believe it can be argued that a circuit predominantly for lighting is a lighting circuit although I agree that a circuit exclusively supplying smoke alarms cannot.

I agree - and it's yet another example of inadequate definitions in BS7671. However, in this case I don't necessarily blame them, since any attempt to define 'a lighting circuit' would probably lead to some silly situations, so maybe they decided to leave it to common sense.

However, as you indicate, it's still anomalous. Whilst I agree that it would be hard to argue that a circuit exclusively serving smoke alarms (or an intrude alarm, or any other very low-power devices) could be described as a 'lighting circuit', there is no rational reason why (assuming an appropriate OPD) it could not be wired in 1mm² cable.

Kind Regards, John