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LastMagicBean

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PostPosted: Wed May 30, 2012 1:55 pm Reply with quote

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If the kids starve, have them removed by social services and put up for adoption, those 14 kids are all going to grow up as wasters anyway.

Dear god, is that your answer to the problem?
We should be concentrating on the fundamental root causes.
Not just stick 'em into a care home.
(at tax payer's expense, I might add)
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PostPosted: Wed May 30, 2012 3:15 pm Reply with quote

LastMagicBean wrote:
AronSearle wrote:

If the kids starve, have them removed by social services and put up for adoption, those 14 kids are all going to grow up as wasters anyway.

Dear god, is that your answer to the problem?
We should be concentrating on the fundamental root causes.
Not just stick 'em into a care home.
(at tax payer's expense, I might add)


Nice troll muppet, now why not quote my whole post?

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We should be concentrating on the fundamental root causes.


That would be education and social values, how many more generations do we have to carry on down this path before we admit the state can't change this aspect of moral education.

Better a few thousand kids are put up for adoption now, than 10s of thousands grow up like these.

Or maybe not?

People like you are just as much a part of the problem with stupid emotive arguments instead of proper arguments.
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PostPosted: Wed May 30, 2012 3:41 pm Reply with quote

The thing about the Chinese solution is - what does the state do in the event of unlicensed children?
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PostPosted: Wed May 30, 2012 7:26 pm Reply with quote

AronSearle wrote:


Nice troll muppet

How very dare you.
AronSearle wrote:
People like you are just as much a part of the problem with stupid emotive arguments instead of proper arguments.
F*ck right off, You're the problem.
I think you'll find the answer was EDUCATION on page 2.

Think about it for a few seconds in that sub-normal head of yours.
A long term cause and it will be a long term recovery. F*ckwits like you took the teachers rights of sensible discipline away, this in turn led to chaos in schools. Very sadly the teachers backed this stupidity. The kids then go on to be parents and breed, and so the cycle continues.
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PostPosted: Wed May 30, 2012 8:21 pm Reply with quote

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F*ck right off, You're the problem.




LastMagicBean wrote:
F*ckwits like you took the
teachers rights of sensible discipline away


I would like to understand your thought processes, you have a very interesting mind.

I advocate a tougher stance, you then accuse me of being one of those lily liberals that took away discipline in schools.

A very interesting conclusion you draw icon_lol.gif

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this in turn led to chaos in schools. Very sadly the teachers backed this stupidity. The kids then go on to be parents and breed, and so the cycle continues.


Yea, cus lack of discipline in schools was the problem.

It wasn't lazy fickle parents who failed to teach there kids good morals, because of course there was no crime or corruption or lazy feckless underclass before we banned the cane (and no, I do support the cane). I mean people have been talking about "the underclass" in one form or another since the 1800s.

Oh yea, "edzumecation" is the answer. I am sure if you tell those 14 kids that their parents are very naughty people, they will not learn from their parents example.

Keep giving their parents benefits, and keep watching their kids learn from their example.

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A long term cause and it will be a long term recovery.


So yea, you falsely attribute what you perceive to be falling education standards as the cause.

Get the cause wrong, and it's difficult to give the correct cure.

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I think you'll find the answer was EDUCATION on page 2.


So let me get this straight, the state gives out silly benefits that allows 2 unemployed people to raise 14 kids, and your answer is that the same state then needs to buck up education to teach the kids not to behave like this.

Ho ho ho!

There have been and always will be a class of "feckless" people, lazy and somewhat immoral characters that if given the chance to milk the system, will milk it.



So do you remove the cow, or do you teach them not to milk it.
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PostPosted: Wed May 30, 2012 9:29 pm Reply with quote

Breaking news........ Mick Philpott and his wife have formally been charged with murder and will appear in Southern Derbyshire Magistrates Court tomorrow morning. icon_eek.gif icon_eek.gif icon_eek.gif

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-derbyshire-18261680
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PostPosted: Wed May 30, 2012 9:32 pm Reply with quote

AronSearle wrote:

So let me get this straight, the state gives out silly benefits that allows 2 unemployed people to raise 14 kids, and your answer is that the same state then needs to buck up education to teach the kids not to behave like this.

Don't be a t*t all your life. That's the whole point. There wouldn't BE 14 kids if my views were in force in the first place.
It's Ultimately down to stupidity. (and you seem to be adding to it). icon_lol.gif
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PostPosted: Wed May 30, 2012 9:37 pm Reply with quote

I think we shouldn't assume anthing. Just wait and see..
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PostPosted: Wed May 30, 2012 9:37 pm Reply with quote

joinerjohn wrote:
Breaking news........ Mick Philpott and his wife have formally been charged with murder
Hang 'em
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PostPosted: Wed May 30, 2012 10:43 pm Reply with quote

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There have been and always will be a class of "feckless" people, lazy and somewhat immoral characters that if given the chance to milk the system, will milk it.


Of course this is true. The real problem is that there is now a huge class of advocates who earn bloody good money fighting for the rights of these feckless fckrs to have whatever they can get.
It's a symbiotic relationship.
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PostPosted: Wed May 30, 2012 11:23 pm Reply with quote

LastMagicBean wrote:
Don't be a t*t all your life. That's the whole point.


What an intellectual giant you must be.

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There wouldn't BE 14 kids if my views were in force in the first place.


Well that's a cohesive argument.

What are your views again?

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teachers rights of sensible discipline away - this in turn led to chaos in schools. Very sadly the teachers backed this stupidity. The kids then go on to be parents and breed, and so the cycle continues.


Never mind that caning and strict discipline still existed in schools when the dad of 14 on benefits would have been a nipper.

But yea sure, bring back "school discipline" clearly that's the problem here, hurr durr.


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It's Ultimately down to stupidity. (and you seem to be adding to it).


I'm sure everyone is being bowled over by your intellectual arguments here.
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PostPosted: Wed May 30, 2012 11:43 pm Reply with quote

AronSearle wrote:

I'm sure everyone is being bowled over by your intellectual arguments here.


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PostPosted: Thu May 31, 2012 12:00 am Reply with quote

Your posts are too long, they bore me (and everyone else I suspect).
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PostPosted: Thu May 31, 2012 6:40 am Reply with quote

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[A very interesting conclusion you draw icon_lol.gif


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PostPosted: Thu May 31, 2012 6:42 am Reply with quote

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Your posts are too long, they bore me (and everyone else I suspect).
I love em - I can always pick through and p****d long ones - better than watching Jeremy Kyle icon_cool.gif
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