Adding a small consumer unit

[sidmus]

un skilled un trained un qualified could result in someones death

 

[GaryMo]

A MISTAKE COULD CAUSE DEATH

We all know that. You don't need to preach.

 

[sidmus]

GaryMo are you an electrician with qualification and registered etc if you are why did you bother as you could of just come here and got the info you needed just interested to know

 

[GaryMo]

Yes I'm qualified. I'm also a Qualified Supervisor for the company I work for (ECA registered). Do I pass?

 

[Grinning Grandad]

I am often asked for advice from family, friends and members of the public and I provide it. I don't issue them with a disclaimer absolving me of any responsibility because it is 'advice' to the best of my knowledge and ability. The recipients can take it or leave it.
This site is an extension of that type of service. I have read plenty of discussions regarding differing opinions (proving that an exact science it aint) but have never read anything that can be regarded as bad advice.
We should be grateful that diy'ers are making the effort to find out a bit more information and rather than looking at how wrong advice could cause death we should be concentrating on how many lives may have been saved by the correct advice being given.

 

[RF Lighting]

Come on then sidmus.

Prove your case.

I challenge you to find any advice given on this forum which would directly lead to someone being injured or killed.

In return, I will find 10 pieces of advice from the last week which has prevented someone putting them selves (or others) in danger, due to them intending to do non compliant work, and being told by members of this forum the safe and compliant way to do it.

 

[sidmus]

GaryMo I was NOT asking you to pass any thing I was asking you why you bothered to get qualified as for proving that some information has saved lives it would be far more important for you to prove that it has not caused deaths or injuries which you CAN NOT.
Lets remember what this was about and that was people here giving advice without proving they are in a position to do so and being tracable
in case a death or accident is caused because of your advice OK is that not another reason self certification schemes are there for so the person/s doing the work have to prove thier competence and are tracable

 

[sidmus]

The fact is that it IS much more likely that someone with out the knowledge or competence is going to get them selves into a dangerous situation if someone they ASSUME[NOT KNOW your family and friends know you and what you do there is a difference] has the knowledge has given them a HOW TO DO LISTS OK FACT.I was given how to do lists when I was learning the difference was I was supervised and everything I did was checked.
Lets look at a very basic thing I have seen nothing on here about safe isolation correct tools or any such thing so are you just assuming the people you are advising know all about that and I aint sure about you but I would be very weary to take on a job that I have not seen in the flesh.How many jobs of you been to where you get oh a friend of my brothers aunt is an electrician and he/she says blah blah
RF prove to me advice from here has not caused an accident/death or got someone into bother

 

[RF Lighting]

RF prove to me advice from here has not caused an accident/death or got someone into bother

No.

If you are so convinced that this site is causing people to be in more danger from DIY electrics than they would be with out it, then show me one single thread on this site which supports your argument.

The simple fact is, that if it were not for this site, and others like it, people would carry on regardless, with in some cases absoloutly no electrical knowledge what-so-ever, with out any one at any point even suggesting that they do not have sufficient skill, or at least helping them to do the job safely.

What would you prefer?

DIYers to get their electrical advice from the 4 years out of date displays in B&Q?

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• RF Lighting
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I think most would accept that this site provides very comprehensive, factually correct, and up to date information.

 

[sidmus]

I believe the truth is that some of you are far more interested in HOW great MY site is and paving your way to heaven by being the helpful angel than to see the problems and dangers you could be causing in the REAL WORLD maybe you should ask yourselfs why the law is trying to stop non competent and unskilled people doing electrical work
why there are organisations like ECA JIB NAPIT etc self cert schemes apprentships training programs etc etc.Why dont we just get rid of them all and let any body do anything they like no matter how dangerous it is wouldnt that be wonderful.I find it frightening that no electrician on here can see the dangers ALL THE BEST

 

[sidmus]

NAIL on head this site is NO different than B and Q unless you are willing to prove yourselfs and take responsibility END OF

 

[sidmus]

RF are you saying you will not prove your point even though you expect me too dont you just love double standards

 

[RF Lighting]

I'm still waiting for to to find one single example of this site putting a member of public at more risk of injury than they would have been without it.

Untill you can, you really have no argument.

 

[sidmus]

See I seriously dont understand why no one on here is willing to prove themselves and take responsibility for the advice they give and none of you have said why you wont that is odd I am proud of my skills and sleep sound

 

[RF Lighting]

Have you found any advice which has put a member of public at more risk of injury than they would have been without it yet?