Loophole in the law ????

[HOGGY952]

Imagine the hypothetical scenario...........

A young woman gives birth to five children, by five different fathers.
From the outset she lied to the fathers on the nights of conception,about being 'sterilized' or on the 'pill' (or any other form of contraception), purely to gain from a very lucrative income from each father as child maintenance. (huge amounts depending on how much they earn).

So.................Why do these women seem to be immune from prosecution.?? Why arn't they charged with profiting by deception, or fraud.????.......
Am i on to something here......or am i wrong...?????

Nothings 100% when it come to contraception except abstinance.

In effect the prosecution would argue there ws no gun to anyones head to have sex in the first place.

The case would be simmilar to a shoplifters, you can hardly argue that someone told you "you wouldnt get caught" so i thought it would be ok.

You knew the risks when you threw your c**k in someone so your responsible for paying for the crime.

 

[noseall]

There are some deserving mums out there that need all the help they can get. Those that have been abandoned, dumped as soon as their pregnancy started to show, by selfish fathers or moronic husbands who move onto the next squeeze and have no intention of supporting their children.

These moms deserve and need all the help they can get. Some deserve a medal.

Unfortunately the system is not perfect and can be exploited by ruthless feral chavs.

 

[ColJack]

where does the law stand on sperm donors? can they be held financially responsible if the recipient's marriage / partnership etc breaks down and thy end up as a single mother?
providing of course that they can track down the "dad".. ( I believe that it's no longer anonymous now and that they have the right to find the donor? )

 

[dextrous]

where does the law stand on sperm donors? can they be held financially responsible if the recipient's marriage / partnership etc breaks down and thy end up as a single mother?
providing of course that they can track down the "dad".. ( I believe that it's no longer anonymous now and that they have the right to find the donor? )

An interesting point CJ. Would have thought that disclaimers would need to be signed as a prerequisite for wanting to use the donor sperm, but don't know.

 

[lifesagasman]

where does the law stand on sperm donors? )

i think that would be quite unnecessary. there is a minimum height requirement for entry into the constabulary so there is no need to stand on sperm donors. that would constitute pecuniary advantage. i'd rather stand on my principles.

 

[ColJack]

Imagine the hypothetical scenario...........

A young woman gives birth to five children, by five different fathers.
From the outset she lied to the fathers on the nights of conception,about being 'sterilized' or on the 'pill' (or any other form of contraception), purely to gain from a very lucrative income from each father as child maintenance. (huge amounts depending on how much they earn).

So.................Why do these women seem to be immune from prosecution.?? Why arn't they charged with profiting by deception, or fraud.????.......
Am i on to something here......or am i wrong...?????

but it's the same thing as if she didn't want kids and was on the pill or whatever and for whatever reason it didn't work..
how can the dad then be let off the hook in that circumstance?

you know that there's a chance that she's lying / forgot to take it / it doesn't work etc, so it's up to the GUY to make sure by using a condom.. especially for one night stands..
not perhaps in the case of a long term comitted relationship.

 

[LastMagicBean]

Just to reiterate....this is NOT my personal experience.....

Very interesting comments, (which was the reason for the thread).........
BUT......the point seems to have been missed.

Its not about absent fathers who had a one night stand.....
Its not about the ultimate moral responsibility of men in general, regarding bringing children into the world....

Let's put it this way.............
She dupes the five fathers after a relationship of, a year, each.
At the end of that year, she holds her hands up and openly admits to each father that she did it for financial gain..........

So would there be a criminal charge brought against her.........NO.
Why not????????? 'obtaining money by deception'????....or indeed fraud.

I believe my argument remains flawless........

 

[conny]

But then if she openly admitted she had duped him for reasons of financial gain then he would, in my opinion, be quite entitled to refuse to hand over any more money and should even have the right to sue her for the return of any he had paid.
Fraud is fraud no matter how it is comitted.

 

[HOGGY952]

where does the law stand on sperm donors? can they be held financially responsible if the recipient's marriage / partnership etc breaks down and thy end up as a single mother?
providing of course that they can track down the "dad".. ( I believe that it's no longer anonymous now and that they have the right to find the donor? )

If a child is born from donated sperm, they can at the age of 18 find out wo the donor is / was. The person who donated the sperm has no repsonsbility whatsoever (as the current law stands) to support any child born from donated sperm.

 

[lifesagasman]

If a child is born from donated sperm, they can at the age of 18 find out wo the donor is / was. The person who donated the sperm has no repsonsbility whatsoever (as the current law stands) to support any child born from donated sperm.

so maybe, for a one night stand, it could be a valid defence to claim you were making a deposit in the local sperm bank?

 

[namsag]

Seemingly the NHS are now paying £5.50 for sperm donatations.


So that old towel you keep under your bed is now worth a fortune....

 

[lifesagasman]

sounds like a novel way to top up your earnings. do you have to be on benefits?

 

[lifesagasman]

Just to reiterate....this is NOT my personal experience.....

yeah, right.......


I believe my argument remains flawless........

nope, it's flawed. better luck next time!

 

[LastMagicBean]

Just to reiterate....this is NOT my personal experience.....

yeah, right.......


I believe my argument remains flawless........

nope, it's flawed. better luck next time!

Please note: Rule 3891.4.....Adding to, or altering quote's, is both unhelpful and requires the status of 'desperado'........

 

[lifesagasman]

Just to reiterate....this is NOT my personal experience.....

yeah, right.......


I believe my argument remains flawless........

nope, it's flawed. better luck next time!

Please note: Rule 3891.4.....Adding to, or altering quote's, is both unhelpful and requires the status of 'desperado'........

no intention to 'alter' your quote, it's just the way it turned out on screen

reprimand accepted (boy, my cheeks smart)

El Gringo