what have the italians given us

agile! now you look like a learned fitter who knows what he's talking about, please enlighten us how the water gets pumped around the system to heat the tank situated 5metres away,also what qualified engineer do i want gas or electric, obviously my time spent keeping vulcans and lightnings airbourne as an aircraft mechanic propulsion is of little value here.

There is a Vulcan, XL318, just 600 yards from me at the moment!

You would have liked the program I was watching last night about the development and final demise of the Concord whose Olympus 593 engines were a development of the Olympus used in the Vulcan. The wing profile is also very similar.

Whilst the Vulcan may have been a massive beast and probably the first to fly by wire it consumed vast quantities of fuel and I dont see it as having much historical significance and I thought it was a total waste of money to renovate XH558 to flying condition. It hardly made half of its planned appearances.

Here it is leaving LHR

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I would not have thought it would have cost much more to get a couple of Concords back into service and they could have produced much needed prestige showings round the world.

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From some way away the look surprisingly similar! Both were the first of their kind to fly by wire too.

Or if not a couple of Concords then four Harriers. They played a major part in winning the Falklands when the pilots discovered they could be vectored. One of those close by too and neighbour worked on their radar.

You need a boiler engineer!

Tony
 
thanks for that, the engines used in both vulcan and concord although they shared the same name were as you can imagine chalk and cheese 20,000lb thrust and nearly double that for the concord, if memory serves me, the government of the time more or less gave B.A. those aircraft, so why couldn't they give them back to the tax payer and we could have passed them on to richard branson, i'm sure they would be flying today
 
Following so much rivalry and court cases between BA and Virgin, giving them to Branson would have been the last thing that BA would have wanted.

An interesting early problem with Concord was it was not making a profit so they asked some businessmen how much they thought their tickets had cost. The seriously under estimated so BA increased the fare to what they had thought they cost and from that point on it made a good profit, mostly contributing 25% to BAs total profit.

The French crash put a stop to that and then once they were modified and in the air again soon after came 9/11 which put an end to long distance air travel and paticularly to Concord flights.

It was amusing that so many people paid £1000 for a short Concord trip!


BA grounded its seven-strong Concorde fleet six years ago and gave six to museums. But it kept one, Alpha Bravo, and for the past six years hid it away behind the airline’s engineering base at the eastern end of Heathrow. Only those who know where to look will see the distinctive slender nose.

By contrast, an Air France Concorde stands proudly on a plinth outside the airline’s headquarters at Charles de Gaulle airport, Paris. Another one is preserved at the Paris Air and Space Museum by former engineers who regularly run the electronic and hydraulic systems.

BA ordered in 2003 that Concorde’s systems should be disabled. Jock Lowe, the marque’s former chief pilot, accused the airline at the time of undermining efforts to operate heritage flights.

Despite making up to £20 million profit a year from Concorde during 27 years of commercial flights, BA is refusing to help any of the groups seeking to get the aircraft back in the air. It has repeatedly rejected requests to publish a feasibility study. BA claims it showed that it would be too expensive, but it will not share the figures with the Save Concorde Group, which believes it could raise sponsorship for a return to flight. A BA spokesman said: “It is an internal document and wasn’t intended to be shared. It has commercial information in it.”

The airline has also been distancing itself from Concorde in its branding. Two years ago, BA removed a model of Concorde from a roundabout on the approach road from the M4 to Heathrow where it had been for 16 years. It has been replaced with a model of an Emirates Airbus A380 superjumbo.


Tony
 
Tanks with 3 reverse gears, rusty cars, **** tasteless pasta, boring shouty singers that you cant understand the words, annoying overly noisy scooters.
Yea sister in laws Biasi has done well, I will concede that.
 
People dropping like flies with cancer and we wonder why, fkin great peices of metal propelled into the skies spraying us with cancerous particulates.
 
Tanks with 3 reverse gears.

In their defence, nearly everyone who gloats about a nation's failure in war not only has no experience of armed combat but would totally sh*t themselves at even the thought of a call up. I prefer to judge a country by what they've help build not destroy, eg. our Great British inventors are worth millions of warlords.

To answer the OP, try Volta, Galileo, Da Vinci, Michaelangelo, Marconi, Columbus etc....
 
agile! now you look like a learned fitter who knows what he's talking about, please enlighten us how the water gets pumped around the system to heat the tank situated 5metres away,also what qualified engineer do i want gas or electric, obviously my time spent keeping vulcans and lightnings airbourne as an aircraft mechanic propulsion is of little value here. PS sorry on the main title 'what have the italians given us' i forgot to mention 'THE GOAT' greatest of all time VALENTINO ROSSI

Yep Valintino Rossi aka the goat aka the Doctor , also another great bike racer Agostini .
 
Can't believe no ones mentioned the greatest gift to mankind ever...













Fellatio :lol:
 

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