Is this how it should be ?

[scooby1]

We are coming to the end of our new build. I know that condensing boilers emit a vapour but ours seems to be excessive. I am beginning to question the abilities of the plumber that our builder is using with this as seen in the photo. and the fact that in the family bathroom I discovered today that when water is allowed out of the hand basin that it comes up in the shower !!

Any comments would be appreciated.

 

[OLLIE20]

Yes they plume, if its a nuisance they do plume management kits so you can direct it higher up and out of the way, it's not you're plumber/ gas engineers fault, also needs a guard

 

[scooby1]

Yes they plume, if its a nuisance they do plume management kits so you can direct it higher up and out of the way, it's not you're plumber/ gas engineers fault, also needs a guard

Thank you very much Ollie for that quick response. The plumber has mentioned that he has a guard to put on it. That pipework is fairly exposed, does it look right to you ? I would like to try and hide it all if I could, any suggestions ?

Thanks again.

 

[OLLIE20]

Strictly speaking that condensate wants taking into 32mm pipe, or insulating or leave it a see if it ever freezes up to you

The other looks like the cold main to me, it doesn't look fantastic, I'm sure there could of been a neater way to do it, but obviously I've never been on site so???

Also best off getting cold main insulated outside

 

[dcawkwell]

Yes plume is common and seems to be larger on oil boilers.

Fuel filter could have been perhaps placed at the oil tank.

Personally my preference is an external oil boiler rather than
an internal one.

 

[scooby1]

Strictly speaking that condensate wants taking into 32mm pipe, or insulating or leave it a see if it ever freezes up to you

The other looks like the cold main to me, it doesn't look fantastic, I'm sure there could of been a neater way to do it, but obviously I've never been on site so???

Also best off getting cold main insulated outside

Sorry Ollie but you have lost me already. Is the plume the condensate and are you saying that it should all go into a 32mm pipe ? And that it can freeze ? I am not sure what you mean by the cold main either, if you mean the water main then no, that enters the house underground elsewhere.

Incidentally, I noticed that when I took the photo. that the outside temperature was +4 degrees C. and the RH was 81%. Is that relevant ?

 

[scooby1]

Yes plume is common and seems to be larger on oil boilers.

Fuel filter could have been perhaps placed at the oil tank.

Personally my preference is an external oil boiler rather than
an internal one.

I have always had the filter at the tank before and wondered why it had been placed where it has. I thought maybe it was a new regulation or something.

 

[OLLIE20]

This is an oil boiler, I have never worked or seen an oil boiler, so that would make what I thought was the main an oil pipe I wondered why it was black
:

Sorry for the bad info

Your condensate is the white pipe and yes they can freeze, more common on some boilers than others due to the way they discharge their condensate

Is it a Worcester boiler??

 

[dcawkwell]

Yes plume is common and seems to be larger on oil boilers.

Fuel filter could have been perhaps placed at the oil tank.

Personally my preference is an external oil boiler rather than
an internal one.

I have always had the filter at the tank before and wondered why it had been placed where it has. I thought maybe it was a new regulation or something.

Perhaps you have a top takeoff tank. But usually it's best to put the filter
at the tank.
Condensate pipe (white) is usually put into a 32mm or 40mm pipe. But I
don't think there will be much of a problem with a straight vertical drop.

 

[middlesbrough]

Yep the white pipe should be 32mm

Not only is your boiler condensing but oil as well which means youl get more visable plume .

Its easy for us all to look at pics and take the mick mind , just form a snagging list id mension the waste issue before you go any further it might be easier to sort now than when your jobs 100%

Its a wonder there isnt a filter that comes with your tank and screwd into it.

 

[doitall]

Is that elbow where the oil goes through the wall soldered.

 

[scooby1]

This is an oil boiler, I have never worked or seen an oil boiler, so that would make what I thought was the main an oil pipe I wondered why it was black
:

Sorry for the bad info

Your condensate is the white pipe and yes they can freeze, more common on some boilers than others due to the way they discharge their condensate

Is it a Worcester boiler??

Yes, it is a Worcester oil boiler. Forget the model now. But does all the hot water and underfloor heating on ground and 1st floor. We are having to install some solar panels as well for the 10% regulation.

 

[scooby1]

Yes plume is common and seems to be larger on oil boilers.

Fuel filter could have been perhaps placed at the oil tank.

Personally my preference is an external oil boiler rather than
an internal one.

I have always had the filter at the tank before and wondered why it had been placed where it has. I thought maybe it was a new regulation or something.

Perhaps you have a top takeoff tank. But usually it's best to put the filter
at the tank.
Condensate pipe (white) is usually put into a 32mm or 40mm pipe. But I
don't think there will be much of a problem with a straight vertical drop.

No, the new tank is a bunded 2600 litre bottom take off tank. Thanks for the info. re: straight vertical drop on the condensate pipe.

 

[scooby1]

Yep the white pipe should be 32mm

Not only is your boiler condensing but oil as well which means youl get more visable plume .

Its easy for us all to look at pics and take the mick mind , just form a snagging list id mension the waste issue before you go any further it might be easier to sort now than when your jobs 100%

Its a wonder there isnt a filter that comes with your tank and screwd into it.

I shall inform the finishing foreman first thing tomorrow about the hand basin/shower problem. I have a nasty feeling that this is going to be nasty. We have Mermaid panels round the shower and if they have to come off then it will be tears before bedtime.

 

[middlesbrough]

LOL it will freeze regardless.

If its has a built in condensate pump then its less of a worry