Racist suicide Islamic 'snackbar' attacks have started in UK

[mdf290]

Finally it is here. After the horrors of Syria we now have on UK soil a white person hacked to bits on the streets by Ethnic assailants shouting ' allah akbar' (do not give a **** about the proper spelling)..

They have crossed the line even the National Front or the EDL would never do and have finally brought stone age actions to a modern cultural world.

After all the years of cowtowing with political correctness stiffling free debate it now seems the balance of civility has tipped over the edge.

There will now be more 'martyrs' waiting to make it into the news and get their 100 virgins because the Police have apparently shot the attackers.


I am not religious at all the above gives a prime reason why my thoughts are not driven by doctrine but by my ability to reason instead.

Even so I find it is now the time to say.

God Bless the UK



http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ss-tells-horrific-machete-attack-soldier.html

 

[Johnmelad]

Time we started taking out the radical Muslims in exactly the same way.

Will there be riots tonight?

 

[ellal]

Rumour has it that there are operatives at RAF Waddington controlling terror devices who have been known to express 'gotcha' when killing innocent people...

It regularly happens 'there', so why the surprise when it happens 'here'?

How do we identify the terrorists at home or abroad?

 

[mdf290]

The attackers were black not Asian so this appears to be some African Muslim connection , possibly Somalians... can't say for sure...

Graphic content...

A picture of one of the attackers before the Police (Great work lads) Shot him. Note his bloodied hands and the meat cleaver.

http://edge.liveleak.com/80281E/s/s...1b4db65f5e99818bad19f4f40dcde114c&ec_rate=200

 

[peterperfection]

Finally it is here. After the horrors of Syria we now have on UK soil a white person hacked to bits on the streets by Ethnic assailants shouting ' allah akbar' (do not give a s**t about the proper spelling)..

They have crossed the line even the National Front or the EDL would never do and have finally brought stone age actions to a modern cultural world.

After all the years of cowtowing with political correctness stiffling free debate it now seems the balance of civility has tipped over the edge.

There will now be more 'martyrs' waiting to make it into the news and get their 100 virgins because the Police have apparently shot the attackers.


I am not religious at all the above gives a prime reason why my thoughts are not driven by doctrine but by my ability to reason instead.

Even so I find it is now the time to say.

God Bless the UK

That should be 'GOD HELP THE UK'.



http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ss-tells-horrific-machete-attack-soldier.html

 

[peterperfection]

100 virgins ?

in UK ?

 

[mdf290]

Rumour has it that there are operatives at RAF Waddington controlling terror devices who have been known to express 'gotcha' when killing innocent people...

It regularly happens 'there', so why the surprise when it happens 'here'?

How do we identify the terrorists at home or abroad?

I am not going to get into that kind of debate. I was a seemingly lone voice who argued against the invasion of Iraq and the futility of Afghanistan.

I am now also seemingly a lone voice against the supporting of the FSA against Assad.

Regardless of previous events this is a first for the UK in terms of the modus operandi.

The prospect of further such attacks is therefore of immediate concern.

I suspect many more Muslims in this country have been fed , watered , housed and funded by our Welfare system than the number of dead civilians in war zones.

The body count of Muslim vs Muslim is far higher than that of Western forces vs Muslim.

I am an opponent of unmanned drone attacks.

The truth is my morality far exceeds either our western leaders or the eastern world.

Weak leadership and devisive political correctness and slack border control have lead us to this point.

Do you condemn what happened today or not?

 

[ellal]

Do you condemn what happened today or not?

Of course...

The trouble is the west doesn't condemn their own terrorist actions...

As coincidence has it, another report today...

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/may/22/uk-support-cia-rendition-flights

 

[mdf290]

Time we started taking out the radical Muslims in exactly the same way.

Will there be riots tonight?

I sincerely hope not.
That would not be the answer at all but would just make things worse.

We need an urgent repeal of some laws.

We need someone with a voice to tell the Muslim community to get a grip of themselves.

The voice of the people must display our disgust.

I cannot think of an immediate solution but then as a Soldier in the Late seventies and early eighties seeing our boys burnt and broken from bombings in Northern Ireland and at Home I could not see an answer to that problem either no matter how I racked my brain.

Using the '5 why's' method of risk assessment i would say.

Lets send back any first generation undesirables.

going through the list of hurdles the logical conclusion is to get rid of the liberal tainted conservative party and push for ukip to come in on a ticket of amending the Human rights act.

 

[mdf290]

Do you condemn what happened today or not?

Of course...

The trouble is the west doesn't condemn their own terrorist actions...

As coincidence has it, another report today...

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/may/22/uk-support-cia-rendition-flights

You cant compare official sanctioned actions with the actions of Terrorist martyrs.

There has to be some accountability.

Taking people prisoner and detaining them is not the same as hacking someone in the street to death.

What you have to understand is that warfare by democratically elected powers has some responsibility. Western powers have to work to rules.
You may not agree with them and Blair certainly got off scott free when he ignored them but there is some accountability.
An Army has to have a structure that involves someone in control able to make decisions and pass those decisions down the line.
An army HAS to have the capability to SURRENDER or broker peace.

In Syria the rebels have no structure and atrocities they commit go unchecked. Summary executions and torture continue unabated. The west supports the FSA purely because Assad is friends with Russia and Iran.

There is no planned endgame. Shia and Sunni will continue to blow each other up well after Assad has gone (if he does) Iraq is still blowing itself to pieces.

You have to see past the western political position which is purely controlling the oil and money flow. You have to really ask when the REAL war that is going on Shia vs Sunni is ever going to end?

 

[ellal]

You cant compare official sanctioned actions with the actions of Terrorist martyrs.

There has to be some accountability.

Official in whose eyes?

Unsanctioned terrorist drone attacks and imprisonment/torture of innocent people?

We are no better than those we call terrorists, and until we realise that nothing will change...

Exactly how do you think the 'other side' see us?

 

[AronSearle]

the Muslim community

I find it amusing that people can argue muslims are integrating into our culture, yet at the same time we have a "muslim community".

If they were integrating, they would just be part of "the" community.

 

[mdf290]

You cant compare official sanctioned actions with the actions of Terrorist martyrs.

There has to be some accountability.

Official in whose eyes?

Unsanctioned terrorist drone attacks and imprisonment/torture of innocent people?

We are no better than those we call terrorists, and until we realise that nothing will change...

Exactly how do you think the 'other side' see us?

The drone attacks have to have some authority , they are not unsanctioned. The net result of their use may or may not be punished at the next elections or the United Nations may decide to stop them.

There is the control element.

The other side I am sure see us as merely an inconvenience because the real target of the 'other side' is not the west but each other.

We are 'Kuffar' as you know and that means no matter what we do in the west we will still be subject to indiscriminate attacks like today whether we fly drones or not.

 

[ellal]

The drone attacks have to have some authority , they are not unsanctioned. The net result of their use may or may not be punished at the next elections or the United Nations may decide to stop them.

There is the control element.

pmsl...

A drone launched in afghanistan controlled from the UK using American servers...

Do tell us where the actual crime takes place when a civilian is killed, and under which juristiction would such a crime be prosecuted?

There is no 'control element'!

 

[mdf290]

the Muslim community

I find it amusing that people can argue muslims are integrating into our culture, yet at the same time we have a "muslim community".

If they were integrating, they would just be part of "the" community.

Of course they aren't integrating their beliefs will not allow intereligious marriage. Their customs don't allow credit transactions. They can't eat non Halal food.Sharia is the only law they want to work to. Integration was never going to happen.
They could however live peaceably and they did for many many years. Many Muslims are very peaceable and respectable people. The problem is not the Muslims of the past but the increasingly radical Islamification of the second and current generations of the present.