Schneider Kavacha Weatherproof Membrane Switch Cover

[chivers67]

Anyone got any experience of these?

We have a client who doesn't want an "ugly" IP rated switch fitted in a changing room for a swimming pool so i've looked for something more aesthetically pleasing. See link below

http://www.schneider-electric.com/e...tor/61235-kavacha/?parent-subcategory-id=5630

 

[ericmark]

It is not how well they work, but will the insurance company accept them? Clearly any cover will have a life expectancy, it says 18 months but that would depend on usage. If the risk assessment was to say it needs renewing every 10 years then maybe, but if it says every 18 months then no so good. Or would it just require an annual test? And how would you test? Or simply an inspection, but if so how often.

So what you have to consider is what will the insurance company say about using them?

 

[DaveHerns]

And remember you will have a liability for having fitted it. Safety is more important than aesthetics

 

[EFLImpudence]

Is it a light switch?

They're not all ugly.

http://www.allaboutelectrics.co.uk/ip55-1g-2w-outdoor-switch-dewps512.html
https://www.google.com/search?q=DEW...=chrome..69i57j69i60&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

 

[ban-all-sheds]

i've looked for something more aesthetically pleasing. See link below

http://www.schneider-electric.com/e...tor/61235-kavacha/?parent-subcategory-id=5630

No photos there.

What does it look like?

 

[chivers67]

http://logi10.xiti.com/go.click?xts...ic.com/ecatalogue/&isTraining=false&dwnl=true
there's a picture on here B-A-S . I showed the Mk ip rated switches to the house builder and he was horrified at how shi t they looked, looking for a better looking alternative for indoor ip rated switches and these look better than the ugly grey boxed ones.

 

[ban-all-sheds]

Dear God.

So this gets plonked on top of a normal switch

and it looks better than a flushed MK Masterseal?

The builder thinks that that is not horrific, but Masterseal are?

And he thinks that Masterseal are only available in grey?

You've got an idiot for a client - be afraid,

 

[Iggifer]

Well this one looks......different

http://www.screwfix.com/p/bg-single-2-way-outdoor-switch-brushed-steel-finish-20ax/14552

 

[bernardgreen]

http://www.herga.com/industrial-air-switches/

Pneumatic push button on the wall, nothing electrical in the wet area, and the pneumatically operated electrical switch elsewhere in a dry areas where it's IP rating can be much lower.

Only down side is the need to push the button a bit harder and deeper than with a standard electrical switch.

 

[chivers67]

I might suggest to go down the wall mounted PIR route

 

[bernardgreen]

I might suggest to go down the wall mounted PIR route

Condensation on the lens might render it insensitive to movement. Warm damp air swirling around might falsely trigger it on. And two (wo)men sitting and gossiping for longer than the timer will be left in the dark until they start moving again.

 

[chivers67]

It's only a 4 bed house and not a massive swimming pool Bernard with plenty of air con/ducting/ventilation to remove any problems in that respect, but yeah worth thinking about. We've installed air source heat pumps to provide the heating & ventilation.

 

[bernardgreen]

It's only a 4 bed house and not a massive swimming pool Bernard

OK but you could have said it was a domestic swimming pool . ( but round here some domestic pools are enormous )

 

[ban-all-sheds]

We have a client who doesn't want an "ugly" IP rated switch fitted in a changing room for a swimming pool

How does a changing room differ from any other room? Why is an IP rated switch needed?

What about a proximity switch behind a tile? Nothing at all visible then.

 

[chivers67]

People enter the changing room from the pool, with wet hands