Toilet Pan on the move

[virtualfunker]

Hi, I have just moved in and the toilet pan is not fixed to the floor (or wall or anything for that matter). It does have fixing hole at the base but the floor is heated so I cannot secure through this. How do I secure the pan …is there and adhesive I can use?


Thanks


John

 

[vinn]

Properly laid, UFH should avoid fixture footprints precisely because of potential penetrations.

Assuming tiled floor & wall:
You could slightly raise the pan & squirt some Silicone under the base on both sides.
A couple of dabs of silicone behind the cistern will secure it to the wall.

Check that the cistern bolts are tight, likewise the toilet seat bolts.

 

[virtualfunker]

Thanks for the reply …it’s away from the wall so only on the floor. Also there’s a bit of a leak from the soil connector so was going to remove the pan and refit it with a new connector.

 

[vinn]

Then move it back to the wall when you renew the connector.
The cistern can then be plugged & screwed to the wall.

 

[John D v2.0]

You could attach it to a sheet of plywood and fix that to the wall via that if you could do it neatly and spare the space

 

[Doggit]

Post a picture of the pan fixings. It may be that you need to change to a different type, that has a side fitting rather than a downward fitting. The side fitting type have an plastic angle bracket that gets fitted to the floor (which you could glue down) and then you screw throught the side of the toilet pan, into one of the numerours screw holes. If you use silicone to hold the pan in place, then it'll make maintenance difficult, so this has to be your last resort. You do a lose fit of the side screw into the plastic angle bracket, and you have some double sided tape underneath the bracket, and you then undo the side screw, and leave the bracket in position so you know where to glue it down to.

http://www.plumbcenter.co.uk/product/nabis-pride-back-to-wall-pan-white/

 

[virtualfunker]

It has no wall fixings ...see photo.
Cheers

 

[vinn]

The pic changes things.
So the cistern is presently being supported by the flush pipe or are there Ell brackets below it - there should be?
Why not post another pic showing the full cistern?

Change the pan connector with as little WC movement as possible (I presume that the leak is at the pan spigot) - try not to disturb the low level arrangement or you might get added difficulties with the flush pipe connections.

Leaving the WC in the same position you could use spacers (we use off-cuts of 15mm coppr pipe) to pick up the gap at the cistern fixing holes. Drill, plug, & then screw through the spacers of your choice.

Ply backing is unnecessary - so is any fooling around at the pan base.
Silicone dabs at the pan base can be sliced free with one movement of a spatula scraper - any "last resort" would be listening to people who dont know what they are talking about

 

[denso13]

to pick up the gap at the cistern fixing holes

Is it not just the pan that needs fixed?

 

[vinn]

I dont understand your question. If the cistern is away from the wall and the pan is "loose" then they both need securing - if thats what you are referring to?

 

[denso13]

I dont understand your question

It's the pan that's loose, the cistern is ok by my reading of it.

 

[virtualfunker]

Correcto

 

[Nige F]

Thanks for the reply …it’s away from the wall so only on the floor. Also there’s a bit of a leak from the soil connector so was going to remove the pan and refit it with a new connector.

Is it from the soil connector, or the flush pipe above, dripping down.

 

[virtualfunker]

I think its the soil conector.

 

[Doggit]

any "last resort" would be listening to people who dont know what they are talking about

Meow