Is curing patients a sustainable business model?

Kankerot said:
So you think its acceptable? Should we just leave it to businesses to decide whether to cure or manage the problem based on their profitability targets?
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We allow companies to sell cigarettes and motorbikes to make a profit.

It's possible Europe, and some national goverments, might choose to invest public money to improve citizens’ health. Maybe the UK government will sack The Hunt and choose the nation's health instead of the profitability of offshore, tax-dodging private companies. We might need to change the government first.

Governments can set regulations and tax rules to encourage social responsibilty. How would you control the behaviour of business?
 
why do only the lib dems come out with the blindly obvious 2p on income tax to adequately fund the NHS. I'm sold. Needless to say efficiencies need to be put in place. The NHS is fantastic IMHO.
 
EddieM said:
why do only the lib dems come out with the blindly obvious 2p on income tax to adequately fund the NHS. I'm sold. Needless to say efficiencies need to be put in place. The NHS is fantastic IMHO.
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Ahh, the thing is, if a 2p extra income tax was introduced, would it all be spent on the NHS ? Do you trust any government to actually do it and spend the extra money purely on the NHS (or would it be wasted on other things ?)
 
Judy in the sky said:
Ahh, the thing is, if a 2p extra income tax was introduced, would it all be spent on the NHS ? Do you trust any government to actually do it and spend the extra money purely on the NHS (or would it be wasted on other things ?)
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reasonable.. I would expect the money to be ringfenced.. then I bet the majority of people would be ok with it.
 
If you made a promise like that, people would vote for it.

£350 million a week for the NHS?

Sorry mate, never said that.
 
JohnD said:
If you made a promise like that, people would vote for it.

£350 million a week for the NHS?

Sorry mate, never said that.
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well as much as it is rightly derided it didn't actually say that.
 
nobody could possibly have thought it meant more money for the NHS

That's why it was such a vote-winning slogan they used it all the time.

And wouldn't have won the vote without it.

How could anybody possibly have misinterpreted it to think it meant more money for the NHS?

Did it perhaps accidentally include words that might mistakenly have given such an impression to the unwary voter?


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How could anybody possibly have misinterpreted it to think it meant more money for the NHS?
 
JohnD said:
nobody could possibly have thought it meant more money for the NHS
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Its a bit like when Corbyn said he would 'deal with student debt' no student could possibly have thought voting for labour would pay off their debt (y)
 
Anyone watch the Netflix series Dirty money, one episode is about the American Pharmaceutical industry. They provide one example - its both shocking and disgusting.

Valeant Pharmaceuticals put the price of a Drug that cost $360 pcm upto $289,000, yes $289,000 a year. The lady who takes it was too fearful to show her identity because if he employers found out how much she was costing them in Insurance premiums they would sack her. (Many states have at will termination so your employers can sack it without providing a reason)

Yet some one here think the US is a system to model our health services. Hunt is pushing us down that path.
 
EddieM said:
huh? actually someone could educate me here RWR LWR? Left wing right wing etc.. but what does the last r stand for.. I presume it's derogatory... ****** perhaps
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Ask Noseall, he posts 'RWR blah blah blah'......every 5 minutes.
 
Kankerot said:
Anyone watch the Netflix series Dirty money, one episode is about the American Pharmaceutical industry. They provide one example - its both shocking and disgusting.

Valeant Pharmaceuticals put the price of a Drug that cost $360 pcm upto $289,000, yes $289,000 a year. The lady who takes it was too fearful to show her identity because if he employers found out how much she was costing them in Insurance premiums they would sack her. (Many states have at will termination so your employers can sack it without providing a reason)

Yet some one here think the US is a system to model our health services. Hunt is pushing us down that path.
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The point your missing is that people's health is their responsibility. Look at the fukkng size of some people in the UK walking down the highstreet. It's no one's fault but theirs. I would think the majority of health problems in this country are self-induced. People don't care about their health. They trash their bodies and when an organ gives up they think the NHS will sort it out. It's a sorry state of affairs.
 
HawkEye244 said:
The point your missing is that people's health is their responsibility. Look at the fukkng size of some people in the UK walking down the highstreet. It's no one's fault but theirs. I would think the majority of health problems in this country are self-induced. People don't care about their health. They trash their bodies and when an organ gives up they think the NHS will sort it out. It's a sorry state of affairs.
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What about auto-immune diseases? Genetic disorders etc. You make claims and back them up with nothing other than what you see. You have proven time and again you are wrong.

As to the NHS listing people for an organ. WHAT THE F UCK DO YOU KNOW. I have a good friend who is a transplant surgeon - actually a professor and the way they allocate organs is not by whim or chance. They have MDT's with an array of specialists as they know the value of an organ. Please GO F yourself you ****. The sad stories he has to tell. Sure there are people who have destroyed their liver through drinking but drink was the tool of their destruction the cause was either losing work, family etc.

I don't usually get worked up but f ukin idiots like yourself should feel ashamed, these are peoples lives.
 
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