Press freedom ........

[gasbanni]

Yes there's been mistakes disreputable reporters and articles.

But as Mogg points out one third of the house of Lords have been embarrassed by the press, so they have an interest in muzzling it.

 

[SirGalahad]

As usual you know nothing about why leveson 2 is so important and it is despicable the Gov voted it down.

 

[gasbanni]

As usual you know nothing about why leveson 2 is so important and it is despicable the Gov voted it down.

No it's not.

https://www.richarddrax.com/news/speech-press-freedom-jacob-rees-mogg-mp


"Speaking during the debate this afternoon, ex-minister Lord Hunt - who previously chaired the independent press watchdog - slammed the plans for a second Leveson probe.

He told peers: "It would be an analogue inquiry in an increasingly digital age.

"It would also, rightly in my view, be seen as yet another attempt by politicians to meddle in the internal affairs of the news media and ultimately to muzzle free expression."

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/62817...s-free-press-just-days-after-mps-rejected-it/

 

[gasbanni]

And also this .......
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/po...nses-but-guilty-of-breaching-Lords-rules.html


Bearing in mind she's here !!!!! No wonder she wants to muzzle the press.........

"In tonight's vote, dozens of Labour, Lib Dem and crossbench peers were backed by three Tory rebels - former party chairman Baroness Warsi, ex-Chief Whip Lord Blencathra and the Earl of Attlee."

As does Lord Blencathra

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...id-to-lobby-for-island-tax-haven-7648252.html

 

[SirGalahad]

I suggest you actually read the remit of leveson 2 and what it's supposed to cover.

 

[JohnD]

….
"It would also, rightly in my view, be seen as yet another attempt by politicians to meddle in the internal affairs of the news media and ultimately to muzzle free expression."

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/6281755/jacob-rees-mogg-slams-meddling-peers-for-fresh-attempt-to-muzzle-britains-free-press-just-days-after-mps-rejected-it/

'mmmmm, a report in a newspaper attacking controls on newspapers. Who could have foreseen that?

Remind me, wasn't it the Sun and other Murdoch organs that (used to?) hack into people's mobile phone systems and read their messages?

Did the editor and proprietor go to prison for that? Or get away with it?

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uk...4176/Phone-hacking-timeline-of-a-scandal.html

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2016/apr/28/sun-trial-phone-hacking-damages-les-dennis

"investigations conducted from 2005 to 2007 appeared to show that the paper's phone hacking activities were limited to celebrities, politicians, and members of the British Royal Family, in July 2011 it was revealed that the phones of murdered schoolgirl Milly Dowler, relatives of deceased British soldiers, and victims of the 7 July 2005 London bombings had also been hacked."

"Former prime minister Gordon Brown alleged his bank account was accessed by The Sunday Times in 2000, and that The Sun gained private medical records about his son, Fraser, who has cystic fibrosis.[124] Rebekah Brooks telephoned Brown to tell him that The Sun was going to reveal that his son had been diagnosed with cystic fibrosis and tried to persuade him not to spoil the newspaper's exclusive by announcing it himself first."

"Other victims of hacking included former Metropolitan Police assistant commissioner John Yates, who revealed on 12 January 2011 that his phone was hacked between 2004 and 2005"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/News_International_phone_hacking_scandal

Despicable.




Gasbag is very quick to follow the lead of a vile bunch of crooks and criminals.

 

[Notch7]

Werent many of the things highlighted by the Leveson enquiry illegal anyway?

Contempt of court.....illegal
Phone tapping ....illegal
Policeman taking money

Do those things need a code over and above the laws in place anyway.

 

[JohnD]

If the newspapers respected the law, and weren't able to buy, bully and blackmail their way out of trouble, they wouldn't have committed these disgusting acts.

You'll recall that the Murdoch organisation did their best to destroy the evidence, and the proprietor and editor claimed not to know what was going on.

So yes, further controls are needed.

 

[sodthisforfun]

I thought they listened to voicemail messages, not hacked into phones and read messages?

A few went to prison. Andy Coulson went in didn't he? Old Tony Blair's mate. I think Brooks should've been convicted even though she denied any knowledge. I cannot see how the editor of one of the UK's biggest selling newspapers didn't know.

But Leveson 1 did little other than to show the full extent of what the media and corrupt officials were up to, it cost a fortune and I don't think a second one is useful. Just as Notch says there are laws already in place, use the law to convict the ****s to the full extent if anything ever happens like that again. I also wouldn't like to see any press freedoms stopped and certainly any regulators to be run by government or regulations decided by government. That's important... remember the expenses scandal? Parliament did their utmost to stop that being in the press, I wonder why. I bet the few greedy MP's who went to jail or lost their jobs would want the press freedoms curtailed...

 

[SirGalahad]

Werent many of the things highlighted by the Leveson enquiry illegal anyway?

Contempt of court.....illegal
Phone tapping ....illegal
Policeman taking money

Do those things need a code over and above the laws in place anyway.

Self regulation hasn't worked. Leveson 2 was going to focus on the role of the police and newspapers. It would have lead to uncomfortable conclusions.

Should the press be free to publish untruths? Can a building supplier make a false claim about a products specification and then say well it's your responsibility to check my claims.