Noise restriction in Planning Permission

[plasterman42]

hi all
I'm after a bit of experience of builders dealing with Planning permissions, I've got my planning application granted and its got a condition in it that says

The applicant is advised that construction works should only be carried out during the hours of 08.00 to 18.00 from Mondays to Fridays; 08.00 to 13.00 on Saturdays; and no work should take place on Sundays or Bank/Public holidays

is this a familiar add on to applications being granted, will this apply to me doing DIY bits or does it apply to having trades in on these restricted times?

any replies will be much appreciated

 

[Notch7]

hi all
I'm after a bit of experience of builders dealing with Planning permissions, I've got my planning application granted and its got a condition in it that says

The applicant is advised that construction works should only be carried out during the hours of 08.00 to 18.00 from Mondays to Fridays; 08.00 to 13.00 on Saturdays; and no work should take place on Sundays or Bank/Public holidays

is this a familiar add on to applications being granted, will this apply to me doing DIY bits or does it apply to having trades in on these restricted times?

any replies will be much appreciated

It will be a stipulation of the area you live, some parts of London are quiet zones with tight controls on noise.

It doesnt apply to DIY, although I wouldnt really do noisy work outside those hours -maybe Sat pm or maybe Sunday but not prolonged then.

If Im using something noisy at the weekend, I always check to see if the neighbours are sitting outside -last weekend my neighbours had friends around in the afternoon so I put off doing the concrete breaking until they had finished.

Theres nothing more annoying than sitting down outside on a sunny day with a nice shandy to relax and a chainsaw starts up

 

[^woody^]

It doesnt apply to DIY,

It does. It's a planning condition relating to the "construction works" not whether its trade or DIY.

 

[23vc]

In surprised it doesn’t apply to DIY, as I’d have thought it was a condition on the project/site itself, regardless of whether it’s you or the builder who wants to make some noise at a given time.

 

[^woody^]

construction works should

That's a badly worded condition.

"Should" is never the same as "must", therefore there is no actual duty to do things that "should" be done (ie it is optional), and you can't be in breach if you choose not to do it.

 

[plasterman42]

i like your point woody

 

[plasterman42]

i have looked at other local applications and found one with but most without the condition

 

[plasterman42]

replying to notch a builder I work for said the same as you, I'm entitled to DIY on my property weekends the issue was paid trades

 

[^woody^]

replying to notch a builder I work for said the same as you, I'm entitled to DIY on my property weekends the issue was paid trades

Nah it don't work like that.

That would mean that the builder or anyone can come round to your house and do some DIY for free, make as much noise as he likes and everything is hunky-dory. And if you were a self employed builder then that's a bit of a conundrum isn't it, as it will never be DIY.

The whole point of these conditions is to stop any noise, caused by any person from annoying the neighbours. Not just noise by certain people and others can make as much as they like.

 

[garyo]

DIY self build is a funny business. Arguably you won't be doing anything louder than someone firing up the mower for 30 minutes on a Sunday afternoon, but the danger is that you slowly torture your neighbours by filling every sunny evening and weekend with perpetual noise.

Cooperative neighbours are their weight in gold, so I go out of my way for them, which normally means seeing a rainy weekend day as an opportunity to do things like break up a slab, or taking a morning off work for jobs like that.

 

[plasterman42]

I get the noise at unsociable times, but my neighbours not constrained by these conditions when he's DIYing his pile of wood with a chainsaw or tearing his drive out with a digger all weekend

 

[plasterman42]

and my issue is also twenty houses down his permission doesn't include this condition

 

[garyo]

Everyone is subject to the same rules in terms of nuisance noise abatement that might be enforced by the council, but you don't want to get to that point really.

I'd ignore the planning permission comment as long as you think you're being reasonable and have a good relationship with the neighbours.

 

[plasterman42]

12 doors up no sign of it on his permission, I think I need to speak to the planning officer and ask why

 

[23vc]

Pretty sure that clause is on my current one and previous ones. Think it’s pretty standard. I’d worry more about maintaining a decent relationship with your neighbours, I forgot about that wording to be honest and had no issues ever.