Finally some good news.

[Doug99]

Shame on Boris and NHS England. This drug has been around for years, so why didn't they discover the link sooner?

 

[pete50]

I'm glad that there is some good news at last. But the world has been on lockdown for 4 months to help to save millions of lives. Now China and Pakistan, both nuclear countries, are shaping up to each other. North Korea, another nuclear country, is threatening South Korea. Then we have the mad man trump. The Middle East is still on the very edge of exploding and there are numerous nuclear countries there, not to mention the Middle East countries that want everybody dead and the various terrorist groups that would like to kill everybody. I sometimes wonder what is/was the point of destroying our economies and all the other stress inducing problems that lockdown has produced..

 

[Scarlet Pimpernel]

It's not quite the wonder drug it's being touted as.

https://www.bbc.com/news/health-53061281

 

[ajohn]

One estimate is that early use would have saved ~13,000 lives

 

[Scarlet Pimpernel]

One estimate is that early use would have saved ~13,000 lives

Really?

Had the drug had been used to treat patients in the UK from the start of the pandemic, up to 5,000 lives could have been saved, researchers say.
https://www.bbc.com/news/health-53061281​

 

[JohnD]

everybody

poor Pete appears to be overcome with emotion, and is posting stuff that isn't true.

 

[Doug99]

It will be interesting to see how the price of this 'cheap and readily available' drug will be affected by its sudden popularity.

 

[Deleted2797112]

Well that didn't take long did it? Aren't there enough threads already re-hashing and re-hashing the story so far? Can't we just be a little bit pleased without the political sniping that there is a treatment that appears to help prevent some deaths and that the research was done in no-time flat here, in the UK?

 

[ajohn]

Really?

Had the drug had been used to treat patients in the UK from the start of the pandemic, up to 5,000 lives could have been saved, researchers say.
https://www.bbc.com/news/health-53061281​

I did say 1 estimate didn't I and also used ~

 

[IT Minion]

It's not quite the wonder drug it's being touted as.
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https://www.bbc.com/news/health-53061281

The way they're reporting it is very accurate. Which is confusing as most PR releases use slightly different metrics.

With this treatment roughly 25% fewer people who needed to go on ventilators died. In the group that had no particular treatment, other than the usual antibiotics, (very roughly) 40% died. When they were given the treatment only around 30% died.

When given to the less slickly people who didn't need ventilators, or weren't suitable for them, it still saved lives but more people needed to be treated to save a life, as most of them would have survived anyway.

It really is great news, not a magic bullet but great news. Since this stuff is out of patent and easy to make it is much easier to get hold of than remdesivier, which is a few thousand times more expensive, harder to make, less effective, and in very short supply. And was until today the best treatment we knew of.

 

[durhamplumber]

"""Finally some good news.""""
Of course,Jonnnyboy straight in to shoot it down in flames....Followed swiftly by Razzler Lal and Gal no doubt

 

[EddieM]

The way they're reporting it is very accurate. Which is confusing as most PR releases use slightly different metrics.

With this treatment roughly 25% fewer people who needed to go on ventilators died. In the group that had no particular treatment, other than the usual antibiotics, (very roughly) 40% died. When they were given the treatment only around 30% died.

When given to the less slickly people who didn't need ventilators, or weren't suitable for them, it still saved lives but more people needed to be treated to save a life, as most of them would have survived anyway.

It really is great news, not a magic bullet but great news. Since this stuff is out of patent and easy to make it is much easier to get hold of than remdesivier, which is a few thousand times more expensive, harder to make, less effective, and in very short supply. And was until today the best treatment we knew of.

Indeed, it's not being touted as a panacea or a vaccine or a cure, but simply as and effective, cheap aid for preventing deaths. There is no bad news here as far as I can see.

 

[durhamplumber]

There is no bad news here as far as I can see.

Me neither

 

[durhamplumber]

It's not quite the wonder drug it's being touted as.

 

[Brigadier]

Whilst the UK response has probably been too late and no doubt many many mistakes have undoubtedly been made, we need to compare like for like, before that assertion could be verified, that said, once done, if done I doubt it'll make a huge difference.

Has Boris hacked your account?