Home Brew Beer Kits

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With the lockdown I'm missing my social pint at the pub. Would like to have a go at home brewing. My preferred ale is Camerons or Smiths (brown ale).
Would appreciate advice on where to buy starter kit, together with the necessary "ingredients" to concoct either of the above ales or similar.
 
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How much does it work out per pint?
 
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Once you have the equipment a reasonable beer kit will be anything from £12 to £40 plus a couple of bags of sugar.
Should make between 30 and 40 pints, yes it will taste good remember you will need to try several to find one you like. I like mild not often seen these days but a kit like Youngs Harvest mild at around £16 inc postage + some granulated sugar suits me fine I make it up to 30 pints for a slightly more robust beer.
Up to you whether you bottle or keg it.(y)
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Youngs-Bee...eer+kits+mild&qid=1608032991&s=kitchen&sr=1-1
 
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That would be about £.50 per pint which is not bad
 
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The problem with home brew kits is they use tap water, so it does not matter how clean you keep things it can get a bug, so speed is important, once you have alcohol the bugs can't multiply, but that means not a season beer, in the main around the 5% ABV, so I still buy Morrison's beer 90p for 4 cans in England at 2% ABV but make home brew in the Winter.

The temperature is really important, too cool and it can go off, too warm and a bitter after taste, I start at 19 deg C for 5 days then 22 degs C until bottled in pop bottles, but unless a you have a way to control temperature it can be a little hit and miss.

You can with a two can kit make a very good brew, but the £12 cans are OK but not take time to condition, so start to drinkable around 6 weeks, so brew started today ready end of Jan.

The result is loads of room needed, which I have, and by end of April brewing needs to consider the weather, needs to be cool weather for first 3 days, so I stock up in Winter, heating is cheap and easy, cooling fridges not so cheap to set up.

I have a flat under house which stays cool, did use a brewing fridge in last house.
 
The problem with home brew kits is they use tap water, so it does not matter how clean you keep things it can get a bug, so speed is important, once you have alcohol the bugs can't multiply, but that means not a season beer, in the main around the 5% ABV, so I still buy Morrison's beer 90p for 4 cans in England at 2% ABV but make home brew in the Winter.
Sounds as if it takes time to learn
 
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My original before moving house was an old fridge freezer, bulbs in the freezer compartment 2 x 8W, and a demo underfloor heating tile in fridge (18W), two controllers a MH1210A and a STC 1000 the latter in freezer set to 19°C and the MH1210A set to 24°C in the fridge, so first 5 days in freezer compartment at 19°C then 10 days in fridge at 24°C bottled in 2 litre pop bottles, which would also go in fridge, all being in the garage, and I got consistent results.

I started in kitchen, however kitchen was really too cool, tried to use heater, and thermometer stick on strips, however I would forget to turn on or off, and either over or under temperature, and when the Hoover fridge freezer was condemned as insulation damaged I used that in garage instead with thermostatic control. I thought all I would need is heat, as garage at around 10°C but found the heat from the brewing raised the temperature too much when in the insulated box of the freezer compartment, so had to also use the freezer motor through the STC 1000 to stop over heating.

Today you can get the Inkbird itc 308 which is same as STC 1000 but all built up for you, with two 13 amp sockets one cooling and one heating, but when I started that was not made, found 0.5°C difference between sensor in centre of brew to pressed against side of fermenter under a sponge, so under sponge was method I used.

When I moved house got rid of old fridge freezer so now can only heat, using a body warmer or coat with air lock out of neck works well, in the flat at around 12°C the 18 watt tile is enough to keep the brew warm enough, again start at 19°C then move to 24°C after the fermenting has reduced, I found when I first started in the kitchen in the summer at 24°C start temperature there was a bitter after taste, best option is move to Coopers kits in summer they are from down under and will work OK when hotter, and used British kits in Winter.

I started with glass bottles but to fill 40 bottles is a lot of work, so 2 litre plastic pop bottles easier to fill, and you can test pressure without opening so if bottled too early you can feel the extra pressure and release a bit, and you can drink as much as you like and replace cap. My favourite is Scottish heavy, the more sugar the higher the bitter after taste and the higher the % ABV I found you can get away with 1.5 the sugar recommended but not double, but taste wise a little less sugar and water gives better taste, it is a balance. But unless you have temperature control trying different things does not work as you don't know if what you have added or temperature made the difference, sprayed malt is better than sugar, but the big question is cost, start using two can kits, and the price goes up, and you can end up paying more for home brew than ready made costs.

I know some will try doing it from scratch, but you need a lot of space the grow the grain then malt the grain then mash it and make a beer, so everyone gets some bits done by some one else, and the equipment required gets silly. InkBird temperature controller around £30 well worth while, but even a brew fridge unless you get it from free cycle is going OTT, got my eyes on the chest freezer, but wife say no.
 
Does anybody know how much it cost per pint to brew your own beer? What does it taste like and can you ever get it as good as the real ale in the pub?

We used to homebrew/ home wine make for years, back in the 80's - but for some reason just stopped bothering. I restarted about 3 years ago, when I got the idea back in my head and spotted lots of kits going cheap on Facebook. That convinced me and I had it all collected that evening, including an unused Wilko £20 wine kit, all for £20. I've stuck to Wilko kits ever since then.

My results have always been great, I have only had one wine kit fail - probably my own fault. All have been very palatable. I buy the 23L red and white kits, plus their Scottish Export beer kits. Wine works out at around 75p per bottle, beer around 35p per pint. I tasted some very rough home-mades from others, but all mine have been good. I make my wine and beer 5 gallons at a time.

Wilko's kits have all you need, apart from the equipment and sugar. I have found no noticeable difference between ordinary table sugar and the expensive brewers sugar which the instructions recommend.

One bit of kit I have added, which makes keeping an eye on the fermentation much easier, is an iSpindel. Its an electronic replacement for the hydrometer. Its an OpenSource project - You buy the components to build it yourself, cost around £25/ £30. Running on a rechargeable battery it floats in the fermentation and reports the gravity, temperature and battery charge via wifi. Which means you can keep an eye on progress from anywhere with internet access. It completely avoids the need to keep opening up the FV checking the progress with an hydrometer, or counting the bubbles. You just watch the gravity graph on your phone/PC, until it levels out and its done.

Things to watch for - Make sure any fermentation is killed, before you try to bottle wine, or the pressure can cause bottles to explode. Beer is different in that the fermentation is encouraged in the bottle, by adding sugar, once the primary fermentation is at an end. So beer has to be racked into proper pressure bottles. I use double skinned plastic bottles, which are reusable.

My present stock is 12 bottle of red, 23 bottles of white and 33 pint bottles of Scottish Export - so that's Christmas and the New Year well taken care of :)
 
The problem with home brew kits is they use tap water, so it does not matter how clean you keep things it can get a bug, so speed is important, once you have alcohol the bugs can't multiply, but that means not a season beer, in the main around the 5% ABV, so I still buy Morrison's beer 90p for 4 cans in England at 2% ABV but make home brew in the Winter.

The temperature is really important, too cool and it can go off, too warm and a bitter after taste, I start at 19 deg C for 5 days then 22 degs C until bottled in pop bottles, but unless a you have a way to control temperature it can be a little hit and miss.

Tap water in the UK is potable, so fine for brewing.

I do my brewing in my utility room, it never exceeds 22C even in summer. It does get too cold in winter, so I use a heated panel, plus a thermostat under my 5 gallon FV, to keep it at 21C. The sensor is taped to the side and the entire FV covered over with insulation. Insulation is one of those sponge insulation rolls, sold for camping, cut to fit the FV.
 
My results have always been great, I have only had one wine kit fail - probably my own fault. All have been very palatable. I buy the 23L red and white kits, plus their Scottish Export beer kits. Wine works out at around 75p per bottle, beer around 35p per pint. I tasted some very rough home-mades from others, but all mine have been good. I make my wine and beer 5 gallons at a time.
My present stock is 12 bottle of red, 23 bottles of white and 33 pint bottles of Scottish Export - so that's Christmas and the New Year well taken care of :)
What would be the equivalent bottle of wine that you could buy at the supermarket?
 
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I did try wine, and a demijohn is about 6 bottles, so works out around £2.50 a bottle to make £12 for kit plus sugar, and really too much messing around for £1 saved can get Lidi fortified wine (Sherry) for around £3.50 so not worth making my own.

The Prohibition range was another story, a lot more messing around to simple wine, but the result at 20% ABV tastes similar to liqueurs like Tia Maria etc. The method is to brew sugar, remove the taste by using charcoal then adding more sugar and a flavour. Well worth while as making 6 bottles which would have cost £15 a bottle.
 
Can you make anything similar to "Baileys Irish Creme"?
 
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What would be the equivalent bottle of wine and type of wine that you could buy at the supermarket and what sort of price per bottle would be the equivalent? You've got a lot of bottles of wine do you mainly drink wine?

It's the more expensive of the Wilko wine kits, but makes much more wine - 23L/ 28 bottles. I would suggest it is comparable with the mid-range of the supermarket wines. We (two) generally have wine with our evening meal most days and share a pint bottle of the beer between us very occasionally.
 
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