Zion and the Art of Armageddon

I've just checked online, none reported so far John.
When it comes to zero figures to help his anti-Israel position, John amazingly loses the ability to produce pie/bar charts and statistics so all he can do is just 'wonder'.
 
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We do. The Israelis haven't starved anyone, show me the figures for how many Palestinians have died from starvation. I'll give you a clue, 0.

We on the other hand starved 3 million people to death in India during WW2 by diverting food to our troops, it's war, it's what happens.

It hasn't happened in Gaza.

At least 32. But it's hard to get good numbers now since Israel have flattened every single hospital and arrested or killed so many doctors.


The Bengal famine is irrelevant. The food isn't being diverted to Israeli people, the Israeli government just stopped it being delivered. Malicious and deliberate.


But maybe this was a Hamas soldier, I'm not embedding it directly.

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Close supporters of Prime Minister Netanyahu continue to deny there is a famine. One of them, an MP called Boaz Bismuth, told me at Israel's parliament that there was no famine in Gaza and allegations that Israel was starving civilians were based on antisemitism. The evidence of famine, however, is overwhelming. The Erez crossing, despite the prime minister's promise to Joe Biden, is still closed. I managed to get close enough to look down on the Erez terminal. Nothing was moving. I couldn't see people, let alone trucks. Reports in Israel say the government is talking about opening another crossing, less easily accessible to Israeli demonstrators who do not want any food or medical aid to enter Gaza while the hostages are still there and have been blocking some convoys...

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Seems to me that ? That casualty figures released don’t distinguish between civilians and Hamas gun men ????

It’s reckoned that Hamas had 30,000 (?) fighters
 
Seems to me that ? That casualty figures released don’t distinguish between civilians and Hamas gun men ????

It’s reckoned that Hamas had 30,000 (?) fighters
Yes, the Gazan Ministry of Health don't record that, and Israel doesn't maintain its own count of kills, let alone attempt to differentiate.

Hamas probably doesn't even know. The IDF are monitoring all the airwaves so communicating is actively dangerous.
 
Seems to me that ? That casualty figures released don’t distinguish between civilians and Hamas gun men ????
True they don't. The actual figures. While the infrastructure is working they are known to produce accurate figures. It has worked for a long time and is likely to still do so in some areas. However more recently more are likely to be obtained via how many people where thought to be in a house and the number that survived. It's generally accepted that more will be buried under rubble.
It’s reckoned that Hamas had 30,000 (?) fighters
How long is a piece of string? Rafar did have 2 battalions of HAMAS fighters in it. Now it seems 4. How big is one of their battalions? Where does the info come from - Israel.

There is an hour long video here about the attack and other aspects. The TV video was a bit different so some of that removed and data added,
12 hostages killed - tanks were used.
 
We do. The Israelis haven't starved anyone, show me the figures for how many Palestinians have died from starvation. I'll give you a clue, 0.
You love to keep things simple.
How does Blinken know that the whole of Gaza is food critical? Simple they know how much goes in and how many people. They also know that distribution within the whole area has it's problems.
The term imminent famine is used, What's it mean. If food supply continue as they are there will be a full blown one.
Where does famine show up first. Kids, babies and pregnant women. An unbalanced diet also figures. These effects are bing seen including deaths.

Comment from a US soldier air dropping meal packs. "One decent meal a day helps as lot". True but people who are suffering due to lack of food need specialised stuff to allow them to recover.

The UN has been into Khan Yunis. Blown up hospitals, schools and general buildings.
 
Where does famine show up first. Kids, babies and pregnant women. An unbalanced diet also figures. These effects are bing seen including deaths.

Comment from a US soldier air dropping meal packs. "One decent meal a day helps as lot". True but people who are suffering due to lack of food need specialised stuff to allow them to recover.

The UN has been into Khan Yunis. Blown up hospitals, schools and general buildings.

An Al Jazz film unit followed a Palestinian chap around Khan Yunis as he hunted for food til he finally made it back home in one piece with two meal bags - the sort a soldier would be issued in the field: heat n' eat. He gave them to his two daughters. Maybe he ate the day after. Maybe not.
 
The air drops in the north do appear to have been increased significantly, Turkey wanted to join in but Israel said no, Perhaps as Muslim they thought ready to use bombs rather than food. I have read that Turkey can hurt Israel as they supply them with fuel. So far an embargo on jet fuel only. Turkey has a more general armed forces than some due to the countries they are near. They probably could drop significant quantities. Jordan can drop and appears to be one of the first to start this up.

Israel - Iran. The general feeling currently is that Benjamin needs another crisis so is playing this up. Reckons there will be an attack in 48hrs. If he includes the Lebanon boarder he is likely to correct as there is always activity there at the moment. Cancelled all soldier leave? Bit weird when some are interviewed that are on leave. Suppose it's all another wait and see.

Biden at the same? - brings up the China sea and the increasing power of China. So lets go and do some posturing. US ships etc. The US will back Japan and the Philippines 100%. Blow China out of the water maybe? Makes a change from Taiwan talk.
 
Still trying to style out your 4X2 comment?
Aww bless...

mottie is still trying to work out the meaning of 4x2...

And mottie the plank still doesn't understand that it is simply a nasty old troll :rolleyes:
 
mottie is still trying to work out the meaning of 4x2...
I know very well the meaning of 4x2, as do you and many others.

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In other news given that the US has restricted travel for embassy personnel in Israel, does that mean they have intelligence similar to that which they apparently passed on before october 7th?
 
In other news given that the US has restricted travel for embassy personnel in Israel, does that mean they have intelligence similar to that which they apparently passed on before october 7th?
You mean other than Iran publicly warning that they will retaliate to the destruction of their embassy?
 
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