Trouble at t' mill.

[Notch7]

One interesting thing that came up on Question Time is that MP's can (and do) claim up to £3500 per year toward heating costs.

That went down well with the audience.

MPs don’t get a big salary, historically large salary rises go down like a lead balloon, so they make their money up with expenses….and lobbyist money and “2nd jobs”.

Although I’m no fan of Jeremy Corbyn, he has never taken freebies and thus can’t be bought…..so whether people like what he campaigns for or not, at least it is what he believes and not what a corporate donor wants (although he is still subject to pressure from Unions)

 

[fillyboy]

Heating what though? Also how is the amount calculated? They can claim on aspects that are like business running expenses.

My local MP uses a church that has offices for surgeries - heating included in the rental costs. What accomodation do they need in London? LOL I favour a huge block of flats but some need to be there more often than others.

I don't know John but a lot of the expenses where they can claim 'up to' a certain amount often means they can claim up to that amount without the need for receipts or invoices.
Perhaps the expenses thing needs looking at again.

 

[Notch7]

that would be some night out

A night out with a couple of right wing grifters

A complete bore

And I find Priti Nasties smirk well irritating

 

[fillyboy]

A night out with a couple of right wing grifters

A complete bore

And I find Priti Nasties smirk well irritating

She speaks highly of you.

 

[ajohn]

Question Time

Do you actually waste your time watching that? It relies on people with particular angles who will use any figures they like.

This one is typical really. A fact that doesn't relate to pensioner winter fuel cuts. The real question on this is why and effects. Politically as you may have noticed it doesn't appear to be a good move. Reasons. Spending review - as they said they would? More taking up pension credits? Or something else?

Some pensioners getting payments they don't need has cropped up before. One source, John Snow often seen as a lefty. Reasons pretty obvious really. More available for the needy.

 

[ajohn]

Perhaps the expenses thing needs looking at again.

If there is a problem like before it will be across the board. It is a really crap program though. Newsnight is scarcely better so frankly I avoid both. I may listen to Laura's question sessions and her podcasts. Not regularly though. Just if I notice they are on.

I see news as a bit of an insoluble problem - it's always bad. Some progs make that worse. There are people around that totally resist watching any of it.

 

[fillyboy]

Do you actually waste your time watching that? It relies on people with particular angles who will use any figures they like.

Used to watch it all the time but much less so since Dimbleby left.
I was on it once, in the audience not on the panel.

 

[Munroast]

She speaks highly of you.

can you imagine the response if we had said such thngs about labour female MPs who were not entirely white

 

[crystal ball]

can you imagine the response if we had said such thngs about labour female MPs who were not entirely white

Give it a shot and find out

 

[carmanmemoranda]

Probably why I used the term MP's.

Which proves the point.

Just pointing the finger about expenses (this thread) at the party that's been in power for a few weeks is just Tory bias. Not you, on this occasion, I accept.

 

[Notch7]

She speaks highly of you.

As does everybody

 

[Notch7]

can you imagine the response if we had said such thngs about labour female MPs who were not entirely white

Priti Patel and Suella Braverman are disgusting right wing grifters who use inflammatory language to inflame hate and division.

If there are Labour MPs who do the same, please name them (there aren’t any)

 

[ajohn]

What's wrong in the mill. Extracts from a decent run down

In the case of Gray, it seems that an early victim of her boisterous style will be the cabinet secretary, Simon Case. She is already reported as controlling access to security briefings, appointing close allies as civil servants and pushing her pet building projects. This may be fine if you can keep it secret, but not if those round you keep leaking.
Later
The most recent grit in this machine has come from the growth of the No 10 Policy Unit, staffed by special advisers. Its proclaimed purpose is to keep Whitehall to the manifesto straight and narrow. But it inevitably cuts across similar units in departments, also staffed by advisers. It was war between the two top units – and Cummings’ reported desire to have Treasury advisers dismissed – that forced Johnson’s chancellor Sajid Javid to resign. So critical is this relationship in the realm of economic policy, that Starmer’s No 10 unit has apparently been downgraded. It will reportedly be just “a point of contact” on economic policy, “more like the nervous system than the brain”. We await the outcome with interest.

Sue Gray’s salary isn’t the problem – it’s the backstage power struggle Starmer cannot afford| Simon Jenkins

Mere weeks into the dawn of a new Labour era, Starmer’s No 10 is enmeshed in a spat more typical of a regime on its last legs, says Guardian columnist Simon Jenkins

www.theguardian.com

The 2nd part is most interesting. Srarner set up a separate unit purely aimed to check that actions are aimed at growth. So we have an advisor war of sorts. This groups views can cut across all departments.

Sue Grey's job - probably to sort out a set up that some advisors don't like so attack her.

Civil service positions - nothing unusual. Remember some ERG people finding themselves in nice top civil service jobs.

 

[Mrs Ten Names]

can you imagine the response if we had said such thngs about labour female MPs who were not entirely white

Priti and Suella are not white females, so whatever you are referring to has already been said.

 

[noseall]

said such thngs

Like what?