Trump Re Ukraine

[securespark]

I only half caught the article tonight on the BBC news, but did Trump say something like "He shouldn't have started it." WRT Zelensky and the war?

 

[Justin Passing]

Yes.

 

[carmanmemoranda]

Come on then Trump supporters

 

[noseall]

Come on then Trump supporters

As if they give a hoot what harm the Orange Idiot does to Ukraine. The morons would still be cheering him on, when our soldiers are dying or the nations is poorer for his idiocy.

Fúck 'em.

 

[blup]

They think it will bring immigration under control. More likely there will be millions more asylum seekers coming into western Europe from Ukrane.

 

[Notch7]

I only half caught the article tonight on the BBC news, but did Trump say something like "He shouldn't have started it." WRT Zelensky and the war?

You have to remember Trump is an ally of Putin.....what he says about the conflict are straight out of Putins playbook.

This is where we are now, an American president who spends his whole time weaving a web of endless lies....and seemingly we have to tolerate the fools on here regurgitating the nonsense

 

[JohnD]

Today's news

Trump blames Poland for starting WW2.

"They could have had a deal" he says

 

[MNW67]

I've forgotten how it all started. What were Putin's original demands?

 

[carmanmemoranda]

I've forgotten how it all started. What were Putin original demands?

In a nutshell he wanted the iron curtain back

Ukraine wasn't the only country scared by Russia that sought NATO protection by membership.

Regardless of what Trump or pootin says. No country has threatened any attack on Russia

 

[MNW67]

In a nutshell he wanted the iron curtain back

Ukraine wasn't the only country scared by Russia that sought NATO protection by membership.

And what was the peace deal that people say Bojo scuppered. That totally passed me by!

 

[carmanmemoranda]

And what was the peace deal that people say Bojo scuppered. That totally passed me by!

Mostly Russian Bs I think

 

[blup]

I've forgotten how it all started. What were Putin's original demands

It started 1. because they wanted to join NATO, 2. because they are run by fascists and narzi's, or 3. the EU installed a puppet government. Take your pick, whatever line the krem lin takes, Trumpf, and then his followers, take.

 

[blup]

4. because Biden was president

 

[Ihavenojob]

5 . Many people in Ukraine are pro Russia and want to be back in their fold. There has been fighting going on for over a decade in the Donbas region, Ukrainians v Ukrainians.

 

[fillyboy]

And what was the peace deal that people say Bojo scuppered. That totally passed me by!

https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/05/06/boris-johnson-pressured-zelenskyy-ditch-peace-talks-russia-ukrainian-paper

Plenty of references to someone from Zelensky's 'inner circle' or 'close associate'. I'd interpret that as Andriy Yermak, who has a vested interest in prolonging the war and keeping Zelensky in power without the need for an election, and for the money to keep rolling in.

Not sure what Boris had to gain from scuppering peace talks but scupper them he did.

I read this morning that in a recent poll 40% of Ukranians no longer trust Zelensky.