J D Vance. Munich speech.

[Dylan123]

Are you one of those who brought us the Great Financial Crash

Ha! Not guilty!

 

[MNW67]

I think a few on here might benefit going on there for some schooling

I did have a quick look last week. I didn't notice anything particularly profound. There was some guy called Alan who seemed to know his stuff.

 

[Highway Man]

Simon Djankov did some work on this:

https://www.nber.org/system/files/working_papers/w13756/w13756.pdf

Short answer is 10% additional corporation tax cuts business investment by about 2% of GDP.

Happy?

Honestly mate you are wasting your time with him, he will come back and simply call you a troll like the other knuckle draggers that always seem agree with him. Its like one flew over the cuckoo nest trying on here.

 

[blup]

You will have a hard job convincing anyone conservative politics work off emotion more than liberal ones, given that the economic history of the last 20 years is absolutely conclusive that lower taxation and fewer labour controls impact economic prosperity positively (Trump politics).

Depends entirely how you define economic prosperity, Trumpf's idea of prosperity is the very rich getting richer. Raiding the mineral assets of a foreign sovereign country doesn't appear to feature in the economics textbooks or accounting practices, other than under the general heading of cost of sales.

 

[Deleted member 265726]

Honestly mate you are wasting your time with him, he will come back and simply call you a troll like the other knuckle draggers that always seem agree with him. Its like one flew over the cuckoo nest trying on here.

He goes quiet when he is properly challenged, it is his MO. He'll be back though so Dylan123 should stick around and not let him off the hook.

 

[Highway Man]

He goes quiet when he is properly challenged, it is his MO. He'll be back though so Dylan123 should stick around and not let him off the hook.

He will call him a Troll and a trump fan and then say Bye bye. Wait for a few more of his croney's to say the same then joins in again,. It's all so predictable and childish.

 

[Dylan123]

Just to add to the key point of the topic, I am hugely out of step in my world as I thought JDV speech was the greatest political speech in modern history.

It is also heralding an end to the EU/US hegemony as the US is starting to realise there are better partners out there.

Europe is in the absolute toilet at the moment, I don’t think any fund manager worth their salt will be allocating more than 5% to Europe given it has virtually nothing to offer. Pre 2000 it was a large economy than the US, today after 25 years of EU governance it’s a basket case.

As for the cancelled election, here’s a newsflash:

Dictatorships never cancel elections and say “we didn’t like the result”

There is always a reason and reason number 1 is an existential and external threat - almost always “malicious foreign actors”

It’s textbook and has been repeated in history, if you’re too naieve to understand this then that’s on you, the “Russian interference” has been the go-to for a few years now and it’s indicative of a failing authority which is unable to govern.

“Foreign actors” is very convenient as it allows whatever incumbent power structure that exists to do anything they like.

As if every single election in a major economy isn’t always awash with funding from domestic and foreign money.

If you don’t believe me I have some horrible things to tell you about hedge funds and private equity donations to UK political parties.

 

[Highway Man]

This has to be the only forum that I have come accross that bans you from threads for knowing what you are talking about. Its a really strange concept for a forum.

 

[Deleted member 265726]

He will call him a Troll and a trump fan and then say Bye bye. Wait for a few more of his croney's to say the same then joins in again,. It's all so predictable and childish.

Then he'll look like an idiot who can't argue on facts and facts alone.

 

[fillyboy]

Just to add to the key point of the topic, I am hugely out of step in my world as I thought JDV speech was the greatest political speech in modern history.

It is also heralding an end to the EU/US hegemony as the US is starting to realise there are better partners out there.

Europe is in the absolute toilet at the moment, I don’t think any fund manager worth their salt will be allocating more than 5% to Europe given it has virtually nothing to offer. Pre 2000 it was a large economy than the US, today after 25 years of EU governance it’s a basket case.

As for the cancelled election, here’s a newsflash:

Dictatorships never cancel elections and say “we didn’t like the result”

There is always a reason and reason number 1 is an existential and external threat - almost always “malicious foreign actors”

It’s textbook and has been repeated in history, if you’re too naieve to understand this then that’s on you, the “Russian interference” has been the go-to for a few years now and it’s indicative of a failing authority which is unable to govern.

“Foreign actors” is very convenient as it allows whatever incumbent power structure that exists to do anything they like.

As if every single election in a major economy isn’t always awash with funding from domestic and foreign money.

If you don’t believe me I have some horrible things to tell you about hedge funds and private equity donations to UK political parties.

The times they are a changin.

 

[Brigadier]

I’m happy to, economics graduate, 20 years in asset management.

Countries with attractive rates of corporation tax attract investment in the same way countries with lower rates of income tax attract workers.

You will find a host of information on a long history of financial centres balancing this to keep their cost of listing and domiciling their business in said country competitive.

I’m going to hazard a guess, that you don’t have a background in economics or business. Happy to take you on here, as you might find this discussion a little more challenging than the yah-boo “muh facts I saw on the news makes me an expert” waffle you posted before.

You will have a hard job convincing anyone conservative politics work off emotion more than liberal ones, given that the economic history of the last 20 years is absolutely conclusive that lower taxation and fewer labour controls impact economic prosperity positively (Trump politics).

Just another airhead who knows zero about the realities and reads headlines from things with logos and thinks the logo makes it “fact”.

Why not zero corporation tax and no labour protection laws then?

 

[denso13]

I thought JDV speech was the greatest political speech in modern history.

Yes, if you lap up lies and misinformation. I don't.

 

[Deleted member 265726]

Why not zero corporation tax and no labour protection laws then?

Notch has been alerted that Dylan123 has put his hand up to argue against Notch on economics.

No need to run in and save him.

 

[Deleted member 265726]

Yes, if you lap up lies and misinformation. I don't.

Your distraction tactics are blatant. We are all waiting for Notch.

 

[denso13]

Your distraction tactics are blatant

No distraction, Vance lied several times yet someone thinks it was "the greatest political speech in modern history".

You couldn't make it up.