the trade war heats up: China stops exports of gallium, germanium, antimony, graphite, and tungsten to USA

[fillyboy]

I didn't say I want China , the Middle East or Iran to come out on top.
Trump likes a deal, if China or any other country for that matter can offer the world a better deal economically,then why shouldn't they come out on top.

Ultimately it will be up to consumers worldwide who they want to deal with.
Tarrifs are a legitimate tool to defend your economy from unfair competitors.
However Trump has weaponised tarrifs to damage the economies of other countries, instead of using them to redress trade imbalances, he is using
them to blackmail other countries to cease trade with China, even if the economies of those countries are also damaged.

Is that his endgame?, I don't pretend to know.

 

[fillyboy]

I'd suggested the loss of a 5,000 order for new planes is a significant chunk of their order book,

It would be, if it were true.

 

[fillyboy]

Irrelevant diversion.

Very relevant. Hence your attempt to dismiss it.

 

[Deleted member 323070]

It would be, if it were true.

This is just this year's order:

Boeing had planned to deliver around 50 new planes to China over the rest of the year

https://www.reuters.com/business/aerospace-defense/chinese-customers-are-rejecting-new-jets-due-tariffs-boeing-confirms-2025-04-24/#:~:text=Tracking%20data%20from%20Aviation%20Flights,best%2Dselling%20737%20MAX%20model.

This was the planned delivery for the next 12 months.

Boeing’s order book had 130 planes scheduled for deliver to Chinese companies at the end of March

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...turns-boeing-737-jet-us-too-expensive-tariffs

Over a 10 year period, the loss of orders will be massive.

As each airline specifies the cabin layout, etc, and different airlines have different specifications, the monetary cost of such cancellations will hit Boeing significantly.
The 'refit' will take up valuable workspace, impacting any manufacture of new planes.
Then there's the cost of delivery and return.

It's one massive face-plant for President Chump.

Airbus must be laughing their socks off.

Time to invest in Airbus?

 

[Deleted member 323070]

Very relevant. Hence your attempt to dismiss it.

Please explain how the rise of China will assist the increased influence of Iran and Russia, and the increased risk of Russia invading Europe.

 

[fillyboy]

Please explain how the rise of China will assist the increased influence of Iran and Russia, and the increased risk of Russia invading Europe.

It's already happening and has been for some time. Do you not read the news.

 

[fillyboy]

This is just this year's order:

https://www.reuters.com/business/aerospace-defense/chinese-customers-are-rejecting-new-jets-due-tariffs-boeing-confirms-2025-04-24/#:~:text=Tracking%20data%20from%20Aviation%20Flights,best%2Dselling%20737%20MAX%20model.

This was the planned delivery for the next 12 months.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...turns-boeing-737-jet-us-too-expensive-tariffs

Over a 10 year period, the loss of orders will be massive.

As each airline specifies the cabin layout, etc, and different airlines have different specifications, the monetary cost of such cancellations will hit Boeing significantly.
The 'refit' will take up valuable workspace, impacting any manufacture of new planes.
Then there's the cost of delivery and return.

It's one massive face-plant for President Chump.

Airbus must be laughing their socks off.

Time to invest in Airbus?

I'm still not seeing a loss of '5000 orders', perhaps you could highlight that part for me.

 

[fillyboy]

Time to invest in Airbus?

Smart people have been for a few years now, Airbus have been giving Boeing a spanking for several years now, equally have Rolls Royce improved performance against Pratt & Whitney.

 

[Deleted member 323070]

It's already happening and has been for some time. Do you not read the news.

Oh, you mean the likes of The New Statesman and Carnegie Endowment, typical US ;leaning press.

I don't accept such biased source's arguments without much scrutiny.

 

[Deleted member 323070]

I'm still not seeing a loss of '5000 orders', perhaps you could highlight that part for me.

I can't, it was an exaggeration, designed to suggest the real influence of the loss of such orders.
How many planes does $800,000,000 (the Chinese orders from Boeing) buy each year?
Each new plane costs about $100,000,000, and used planes cost $55,000,000.

That's a substantial loss of business for Boeing, and a substantial gain for Airbus

 

[Notch7]

it's more than possible they will, my concern is the company they keep.

Trump keeps company with Putin / Russia

Farage and Breixt are closely linked to Putin

you dont seem terribly concerned about the company your heros keep

 

[Deleted member 323070]

Trump keeps company with Putin / Russia

Farage and Breixt are closely linked to Putin

you dont seem terribly concerned about the company your heros keep

He reads such press reports that heavily favour his heroes.

 

[Notch7]

If you want the balance of power in the Middle East to shift from Saudi and Israel toward Iran, or Putin to have free reign to advance into Europe

Trump is the person who has most helped Putin "have free reign to advance into Europe"

So supporting Russia is your choice, despte you claiming otherwise:

It aint mine

By the way, Trumps trade wars and his attack on USAID has increased Chinas opportunities to win globally

 

[Notch7]

He reads such press reports that heavily favour his heroes.

Trump administration has recently allowed a presser to join the Whitehouse press corps who spreads pro Russian propaganda

they also allow Tass to be there as well

 

[Deleted member 323070]

Trump's deal making:

Russia has rejected his overtures to end the war in Ukraine. Israel and Hamas defied his efforts to end the war in Gaza. And China appears to be in no mood to strike a deal to end the trade war he sparked.
When it comes to Iran, however, things may be looking up.
Negotiators from the U.S. and Iran met in Oman last Saturday, and again this weekend, for face-to-face talks about ending Iran’s nuclear program. And Trump, who walked away from the original 2015 nuclear deal during his first term, is now well-positioned to secure a lasting deal.
The question is: What kind?
Since the U.S. abandoned the agreement that curtailed Iran’s nuclear program in 2018, Tehran has accelerated its enrichment of uranium, which is a critical step toward building a nuclear weapon. Hence, the need for a quick resolution is more urgent than ever.
Currently, there are three aspects of Iran’s nuclear activities that are particularly worrying: First, after deploying advanced centrifuges able to enrich uranium at a much faster pace, the country has massively expanded its enrichment capabilities.
Second, as it’s been producing highly enriched uranium since 2021, Iran has now stockpiled about 275 kilograms of uranium enriched to 60 percent. That’s sufficient for about six nuclear weapons once enriched to 90 percent purity — meaning, it would take Iran less than two weeks to produce enough bomb-grade material for a single weapon.
Finally, late last year, the U.S. intelligence community concluded that Iran was examining ways to build a crude weapons stockpile in a matter of months, rather than waiting the year or more it would take its engineers to manufacture a weapon that could be deployed atop a ballistic missile. ....
However, the final deal — if there is one — is more likely to resemble the 2015 one he repeatedly described as “the worst deal in history,”

Trump may get a nuclear deal — on Iran’s terms

Given Tehran’s weakened state and Washington’s eagerness for a deal, success is possible. However, it’s more likely to resemble the 2015 one Trump abandoned.

www.politico.eu