EU calling for respect.

[Deleted member 323070]

Ah right. You’re against things until you need to use them. Lying hypocrite swerving Notch.

I'm against two party politics, and the FPTP system, but I use them when I have to.
I'm against paying accountant fees, but I recognise they save me money.
I'm against having to wait weeks for a Drs appointment, but I still have to use the system.

I'm sue you can think of loads of similar situations.

 

[Deleted member 323070]

Whoosh!

What I was saying is that using the economic power of the EU to screw third world countries over trade, and then send them foreign aid, is stupid. We should just give them fairer trade deals in the first place.

Do they screw third world countries?

Sustainable development in EU trade agreements​

Sustainable development in EU trade agreements

Trade agreements are an important driver for sustainable growth both in the EU and in partner countries. Modern EU trade agreements contain rules on trade and sustainable development.

policy.trade.ec.europa.eu

 

[MNW67]

do you have evidence they did it? -I think it was true to some extent historically but not so sure now

I have come across lots of articles claiming how the EU mistreated African nations, usually in regards to high import tariffs

but research Ive done mostly shows this to be based on the headline tariff and ignores the EBA concessions, part of the generalised scheme of preferences (GSP, GSP+) which cuts the tariff down to zero in most cases

there was a bit of controversy about ending the GSP in regards to rice from Vietnam, but I think thas been dropped now

there was also some controversy about EU dumping milk powder on some regions in Africa -about a decade ago

I haven't looked in detail for a few years. But this is the sort of thing they used to talk about:

EU’s coffee tariff punishes producers​

The most prominent offender in this regard is of course the most powerful trading bloc in the world: the European Union (EU). There are too many examples to list, but one of the most egregious that illustrates the issue is coffee.

The EU slaps Africa with punishing tariff charges on processed, roasted coffee, but not unroasted, raw green beans. Naturally, this deters our coffee producers from investing in the technology to process the commodity while bullying them into exporting it raw.

To add insult to injury European countries can then process and re-export for great profit – and at great expense to poor African farmers. In 2019 Uganda earned just $470m from over 250,000 tonnes of coffee exports; Switzerland earned some $2.2bn from processing and re-exporting just 80,000 tonnes. Indeed, all Africa earned just $1.5bn from the crop in 2014. Yet Germany, a leading processor, earned nearly double that from re-exports.

Lopsided EU trade agreements are harming Africa

Africa needs a more equal trade relationship with Europe where African countries are treated as partners, not serfs, argues Uganda's presidential advisor on exports.

african.business

 

[Notch7]

I haven't looked in detail for a few years. But this is the sort of thing they used to talk about:

Lopsided EU trade agreements are harming Africa

Africa needs a more equal trade relationship with Europe where African countries are treated as partners, not serfs, argues Uganda's presidential advisor on exports.

african.business

roasted coffee imports have a 7.5% tariff to the EU

apart from Kenya which has an Economic Partnership Agreement with EU and roasted coffee tariff is 0%
also from Nigeria under Everything but Arms is 0%


I am not sure EU importers would want roasted coffee beans, roasted coffee loses freshness quickly so it makes sense to roast and package near where it is consumed.



I buy roasted coffee beans from artisan roasters in the UK and they always roast their own beans. Rave Coffee and Coffeeworks, nearly always roast their coffee within a day or so before dispatch. They are very careful in keeping to a recipe roast profile so the beans are consistent in flavour. Coffeeworks provides recommended brew ratios to get the achieve the tasting notes in the description.

 

[Lirefighter]

https://members.parliament.uk/member/5091/voting

That's just disinformation from a right wing site.
Tiktok said he's only been there twice.

 

[Notch7]

That's just disinformation from a right wing site.
Tiktok said he's only been there twice.

Nigel Farage attendance 33%

69 votes out of 206

The Public Whip — Voting Record - Nigel Farage MP, Clacton (26352)

 

[Notch7]

https://members.parliament.uk/member/5091/voting

the answer is not very much

Nigel Farage attendance 33%

69 votes out of 206

The Public Whip — Voting Record - Nigel Farage MP, Clacton (26352)

 

[Mottie]

the answer is not very much

Nigel Farage attendance 33%

69 votes out of 206

The Public Whip — Voting Record - Nigel Farage MP, Clacton (26352)

Who's your MP?

 

[Notch7]

Who's your MP?

Torsten Bell

 

[Mottie]

In Sussex? I didn’t know Sussex stretched as far as Swansea.

 

[aveatry]

In Sussex? I didn’t know Sussex stretched as far as Swansea.

He is getting his lies mixed up

 

[Mottie]

He is getting his lies mixed up

He normally disappears and lies low when caught out. Say, where's he gone?

 

[Notch7]

In Sussex? I didn’t know Sussex stretched as far as Swansea.

Torsten Bell is my favourite MP
How does his voting record compare to Farage?



If you meant my constituency MP, that is Mims Davies…..how does her voting record compare to Farridge, she voted 151 time out of 206 73%

Perhaps you could comment how that compares

The Public Whip — Voting Record - Mims Davies MP, Mid Sussex (25330)

 

[Lirefighter]

Torsten Bell is my favourite MP…….you never said the MP in my constituency.

How does his voting record compare to Farage?

good old notchy.
I knew the excuse would be bad, but that excuse really does take the biscuit.
Ha, ha

 

[noseall]

Trump agreed.

They've got a new acronym for your cowardly hero Trump, courtesy of the Wall Street traders - TACO.

Look it up, boyo.