Hi, I've recently had a boiler fitted and was planning on making good the pipework once they had finished. I came back to find they had left it like this. I have posted this on another forum here and the consensus seemed to be that a) this is perfectly acceptable and b) I should have asked them to remove the ugly spigot (which was the old filling loop) rather than just assume they would have removed it if for nothing more than ease of finishing. Aside from the attitude I have noticed thus far from the trade, I am interested in further opinions from currently working heating engineers as to a) is this currently an acceptable standard these days?, b) do you think I am at fault for not mentioning beforehand that I would like the finished job to at least be practical to finish off with some thin boxing, and that I would like pipework that is no longer serving a purpose to be removed? and c) any suggestions as to what to do next?, thanks in advance
Acceptable workmanship?
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a) Yes, but the capped pipe spoils it a bit.
b) I don't think you'd be expected to specifically ask for it to be removed beforehand.
c) Have you spoken to the fitters? Explain that they have done a good job but you'd appreciate if this could be removed?
b) I don't think you'd be expected to specifically ask for it to be removed beforehand.
c) Have you spoken to the fitters? Explain that they have done a good job but you'd appreciate if this could be removed?
All depends on who you used.
Thanks for the replies, they were a well known local company, they've got bout 8 vans or so, all vw's less than 5 years old. the job was 3k.
What upset me was the fact that the fitter told my mother that she could plumb a dishwasher onto the capped pipe, and another lie regarding some chrome tube, the small amount of effort it would have taken to remove the t and swap it for a coupling, the again, laziness in filter position, its been fitted at the exact length of the pipes that come with the boiler, as seen by the other soldered joints, I'm sure that could have been cut back a bit to lift it higher so maybe get a kettle under it, and the general lack of respect to other peoples property. I myself am in the construction industry and the phrase 'cant see it from my house' springs to mind.
Considering the boiler plus flue and filter would be max 1500 quid. They didnt bother cleaning out the system, were done by 4.30. So 1500 quid for that is, in my opinion, a complete mickey take. If they had taken an extra 5 minutes to cut that spigot off, lifted the filter as high as practicable, and not lied to my mother believing they would get away with it I wouldnt have a problem, would have wrapped a bit of 6mm tile backer as a box and tiled it with some new white metros, happy days. The other thing you cant see is the receiver, which he fitted to the left hand side of the boiler, dragging the flex behind the pipework, plenty of room above the spur.
It seems if you want something doing right these days, you have to stand behind them all day to make sure they don't take the mickey.
Their boss is coming out tomorrow, I wanted to get some idea of what 'tradesmen' call a decent job well done these days, sadly disappointed.
ps he left the filling loop wide open so I had to figure out for myself why there was no hot water at the tap. Boiler is currently at 2.2 bar cold.
What upset me was the fact that the fitter told my mother that she could plumb a dishwasher onto the capped pipe, and another lie regarding some chrome tube, the small amount of effort it would have taken to remove the t and swap it for a coupling, the again, laziness in filter position, its been fitted at the exact length of the pipes that come with the boiler, as seen by the other soldered joints, I'm sure that could have been cut back a bit to lift it higher so maybe get a kettle under it, and the general lack of respect to other peoples property. I myself am in the construction industry and the phrase 'cant see it from my house' springs to mind.
Considering the boiler plus flue and filter would be max 1500 quid. They didnt bother cleaning out the system, were done by 4.30. So 1500 quid for that is, in my opinion, a complete mickey take. If they had taken an extra 5 minutes to cut that spigot off, lifted the filter as high as practicable, and not lied to my mother believing they would get away with it I wouldnt have a problem, would have wrapped a bit of 6mm tile backer as a box and tiled it with some new white metros, happy days. The other thing you cant see is the receiver, which he fitted to the left hand side of the boiler, dragging the flex behind the pipework, plenty of room above the spur.
It seems if you want something doing right these days, you have to stand behind them all day to make sure they don't take the mickey.
Their boss is coming out tomorrow, I wanted to get some idea of what 'tradesmen' call a decent job well done these days, sadly disappointed.
ps he left the filling loop wide open so I had to figure out for myself why there was no hot water at the tap. Boiler is currently at 2.2 bar cold.
Inline descaler?
Shock arrestor?
Shock arrestor?
Thin boxing? what about the pump
What pump?
Tell them to remove that dead pipe, then box all of it in.
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I’ve seen worse. That capped pipe unless used is considered a dead leg and the cable is touching the gas pipe and should be a minimum of 25mm away. Regards boxing in, do you think every gas engineer is capable of woodwork and was this agreed to be done?
There is nothing wrong with it as a job.
Yes they could have removed the dead leg but technically it wasn't part of the work.
Putting a kettle under a boiler is a very silly idea
Yes they could have removed the dead leg but technically it wasn't part of the work.
Putting a kettle under a boiler is a very silly idea
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If they capped it, then they’re liable, so technically it is part of the work.
Im sure a message to the company owner would be seen as reasonable and the dead leg would be removed.
I lost all sympathy when the OP assumed that there was 1500 profit in the job forgetting the vat, tax, wages and all the other costs involved in running a company.
There was no need to bring all that into it
I lost all sympathy when the OP assumed that there was 1500 profit in the job forgetting the vat, tax, wages and all the other costs involved in running a company.
There was no need to bring all that into it
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Agree mate.
Oops bad eyesight, change that to filter
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