National Grooming Gangs Inquiry Announced

noseall said:
No. I'm saying it's cherry picked. MBK tried to do it in a previous thread. Only I found the report and read it. The hilarious thing was, it showed the exact opposite of what he said.
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of course it's cherry picked - all Gumbynews can do is pick cherries to feed the audience of fruitloops who gobble it all up with a spoon.
 
MNW67 said:
Are you saying it might be fake? That's a shame, it seemed to provide some useful new details.
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You mean new as in 2023 or 2024 figures?
New figures from the police database show that, where ethnicity data was available, 85% of “group-based” child abusers were white in the first three quarters of 2024.

Offences where grooming gangs are involved are predominantly white. There is not a significant issue here with any particular ethnicity or setting
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Richard Fewkes, NPCC
The same data for the whole of 2023 showed 83% of offenders were white.

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noseall said:
No. I'm saying it's cherry picked. MBK tried to do it in a previous thread. Only I found the report and read it. The hilarious thing was, it showed the exact opposite of what he said.
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Do you remember which report that was.

I've not followed this in detail. I meant "new" in the sense that I didn't think it had been posted before. I thought it might help solve the riddle. TBH, the exact information we need to have a sensible debate just doesn't seem to be available. So, both sides are presenting partial information to push their view point. That was what Baroness Casey was saying, I believe.
 
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noseall said:
No. I'm saying it's cherry picked. MBK tried to do it in a previous thread. Only I found the report and read it. The hilarious thing was, it showed the exact opposite of what he said.

LIES....

"...It is not white British males committing the majority of rape abuse against kids, via rape gangs. There are plenty of official reports confirming this and I have posted them for the forum idiots to appraise themselves of..."
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MNW67 said:
Thanks. I have already seen that one. And the one saying that 83% of group CSE is carried out by white men.
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Trying to pretend a CSA / CSE crime stats report is relevant to organised gangs raping kids, is about as dishonest as you can go. ~1% of the data is relevant. and the quality is "appalling" .

www.bbc.co.uk

Key takeaways from grooming gangs report

A national inquiry and tightening laws on the age of consent are among the review's recommendations.
www.bbc.co.uk www.bbc.co.uk

The only reliable data is Prison offenders. It cuts out the chaff and focuses on the serious criminals.

It says the ethnicity of perpetrators is "shied away from" and still not recorded in two-thirds of cases, meaning it is not possible to draw conclusions at a national level.

However, the report says there is enough evidence from police data in three areas - Greater Manchester, South Yorkshire and West Yorkshire - to show "disproportionate numbers of men from Asian ethnic backgrounds amongst suspects for group-based child sexual exploitation".

It adds that the significant number of perpetrators of Asian ethnicity identified in local reviews and high-profile prosecutions across the country also warrants further examination.

The report says more effort is needed to explore why it appears perpetrators of Asian and Pakistani ethnicity are disproportionately represented in some areas.
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Boyo and Denso won't want to accept this. Makes them look right idiots. They've been telling us for 100s of pages that White Men are over represented. oof!.
 
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MNW67 said:
Thanks. I have already seen that one. And the one saying that 83% of group CSE is carried out by white men.
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I wonder what the figures would show if you were looking at organised gangs of one ethnicity specifically preying on children of a particular different ethnicity if the ‘group' definition was described as 10 or more instead of just two individuals who are known to each other and targeting any individual regardless of ethnicity or even sex? Statistics, eh. You can make them show what you want if you set the criteria, including removing large Asian rape gangs from them, can’t you?
 
Mottie said:
I wonder what the figures would show if you were looking at organised gangs of one ethnicity specifically preying on children of a particular different ethnicity if the ‘group' definition was described as 10 or more instead of just two individuals who are known to each other and targeting any individual regardless of ethnicity or even sex? Statistics, eh. You can make them show what you want if you set the criteria, including removing large Asian rape gangs from them, can’t you?
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The only consistent over representation of "whites" in any of the data is the victim.
 
Mottie said:
I wonder what the figures would show if you were looking at organised gangs of one ethnicity specifically preying on children of a particular different ethnicity if the ‘group' definition was described as 10 or more instead of just two individuals who are known to each other and targeting any individual regardless of ethnicity or even sex? Statistics, eh. You can make them show what you want if you set the criteria, including removing large Asian rape gangs from them, can’t you?
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The statistics available to date don't seem to be very helpful. I am trying to find out if anything at all useful can be gleaned from what is out there. But it seems hopeless. That is what Baroness Casey said, I believe.
 
MNW67 said:
The statistics available to date don't seem to be very helpful. I am trying to find out if anything at all useful can be gleaned from what is out there. But it seems hopeless. That is what Baroness Casey said, I believe.
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There are prison stats. You have to do some pivots to group the data correctly.

40-50% sexual assault against Women - Non-whites, in a country where ~80-85% of the population are British White. It's not racist to say that Muslims are about 5 times over represented in Prison. The data is available.

Seems there are still prosecutions to go:
 
Mottie said:
I wonder what the figures would show if you were looking at organised gangs of one ethnicity specifically preying on children of a particular different ethnicity if the ‘group' definition was described as 10 or more instead of just two individuals who are known to each other and targeting any individual regardless of ethnicity or even sex? Statistics, eh. You can make them show what you want if you set the criteria, including removing large Asian rape gangs from them, can’t you?
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I'm sure you'll get the answer you want if you play about with the information available.

I don't see how that helps.
 
transam said:
So why do you alter quotes etc ??

What have you got to hide ?? Is it some type of syndrome ??

Does it require therapy ??
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I don't know how simpler it could be.

Do you agree that the full force of the law should be applied to child sex offenders, whatever their skin colour?
 
Casey reports the ethnicity of grooming gangs was avoided because far-right groups make a meal of the issue and distort the data to fit in with their narrative, which is misleading at best, and wilfully inciting at its worst. It'll be interesting to find a clearer presentation of the data when the ethnicity is taken into account in future.
 
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