Has the tables turned?

[denso13]

Nothing discernible has changed.

No, still great money to be earned either way. Site workers can earn small fortunes, if they want to.

 

[MNW67]

Goalies?

Chimney sweeps?

 

[SUNRAY]

No, still great money to be earned either way. Site workers can earn small fortunes, if they want to.

only small fortunes now?

 

[denso13]

only small fortunes now?

You have to be careful how you word things here, else unrestrained wrath will be the outcome...

 

[pete01]

I was earning more in 2014 employed than I am now...but I had to work away...would I go back to it, err No chance

 

[noseall]

Are you unable to see that the value of what you do and the demand for it, vs the ability of others to do it for less dictates what you earn?

Perhaps you are unable to see that people use my building firm because they want us, rather than the cheapest. I have landed many a job, whereby the customer has told me the job is mine and asked for a price, after.
The garage conversion and garage we built earlier this year, we were several thousand more expensive than an equivalent builder. She didn't trust any of the others quoting.
I just mention to folk, can you afford not to have us.
We only do one job at a time.
None of us smoke. No drink (or drugs).
We are on site (just before eight) same time every day.
We stay until the job is complete, as well as any add-ons, and leave when the customer is happy.

 

[motorbiking]

Perhaps you are unable to see that people use my building firm because they want us, rather than the cheapest. I have landed many a job, whereby the customer has told me the job is mine and asked for a price, after.
The garage conversion and garage we built earlier this year, we were several thousand more expensive than an equivalent builder. She didn't trust any of the others quoting.
I just mention to folk, can you afford not to have us.
We only do one job at a time.
None of us smoke. No drink (or drugs).
We are on site (just before same time every day.
We stay until the job is complete, as well as any add-ons, and leave when the customer is happy.

and yet they still got other quotes.

 

[noseall]

and yet they still got other quotes.

Some do yes. I encourage it. I feel a wee bit uncomfortable when they say the job is mine, then ask for costings.

 

[motorbiking]

Some do yes. I encourage it. I feel a wee bit uncomfortable when they say the job is mine, then ask for costings.

Hence...

the value of what you do and the demand for it, vs the ability of others to do it for less dictates what you earn?

Reputation, has value. Not many will go with the more expensive when two are equally as good. Of course you've put a limit on the capacity and scale of your business, but I suspect you are aware of that.

 

[noseall]

Hence...

....this

the value of what you do and the demand for it, vs the ability of others to do it for less dictates what you earn?

..is nonsense.
People want a reputable, recommended, honest builder, and are prepared to pay over the odds for it, despite your waffle.

 

[motorbiking]

People want a reputable, recommended, honest builder, and are prepared to pay over the odds for it, despite your waffle.

Reputation, references, honesty, integrity, knowhow - yep none of these have anything to do with..

The harder you work, the more you earn.

1 hour of your time is worth more than 1 hour of the next guy, if he doesn't have the above.

The thing you are struggling with, is they are not paying "over the odds for it". They are getting something in return.

This is because..

the value of what you do and the demand for it, vs the ability of others to do it for less dictates what you earn.

 

[noseall]

the value of what you do and the demand for it, vs the ability of others to do it for less dictates what you earn?

Nope.

 

[MNW67]

Reputation, references, honesty, integrity, knowhow - yep none of these have anything to do with..

1 hour of your time is worth more than 1 hour of the next guy, if he doesn't have the above.

The thing you are struggling with, is they are not paying "over the odds for it". They are getting something in return.

This is because..

You might be overcomplicating it.

The way I see it is if a contractor chooses to take on more work and therefore works longer hours, whilst maintaining the same standards and reputation, then he would earn more money.

 

[motorbiking]

You might be overcomplicating it.

The way I see it is if noseall, or any other contractor, chooses to take on more work and therefore worked longer hours, whilst maintaining the same standards and reputation, then he would earn more money.

or he can earn more money by charging more (as he does), because his firm has the demand and loyal customer base who value his skills and reputation. It's not rocket science.

 

[MNW67]

or he can earn more money by charging more (as he does), because his firm has the demand and loyal customer base who value his skills and reputation. It's not rocket science.

And that same contractor can make even more money by working longer hours. That is all anybody is saying.

Unless you are arguing that noseall could make more on his current hours if he was an even better builder.