Reform will stop the small boats within two weeks ...

[Deleted member 317777]

I don't know where it's going. Except it feels like we are headed somewhere bad.

Bad how ?

 

[MNW67]

Bad how ?

It feels like there is so much unhappiness in the West. Parties on both extremes are gaining popularity. That didn't end well in the 1930s.

 

[Vinty]

Ironically, many of the reform supporters were tory supporters, and can't see that they are supporting the very same people that made such a mess.

It's the Tory party rebranding itself.
They made such a mess the last time they were in power, that the very name Tory is toxic.

Nigel is no different from all the other Tory losers.
Boris Johnson got a landslide with his populist bullshit, Starmer got a landslide from a disillusioned public and Nigel might get a landslide from an even more disillusioned electorate who are desperate.

 

[Highway Man]

It That didn't end well in the 1930s.

Oh no it didn't

 

[Harry Bloomfield]

Or just a massive riot and the equivalent to Marshall law ?

In my opinion, that is the direction things are going. A once great, and influential country, in massive decline, failing to properly police its own borders, making illegal immigrants over welcome, whilst ignoring the needs of its own needy. A government, unable to make any hard decisions, constantly doing U-turns because they get it so obviously wrong. Politicians lining their own pockets. Thieves, walking into shops, loading up with shopping, and walking out, and the police unable/unwilling to bother doing anything about it, just dishing out crime numbers. A major part of the able bodied population, sat on their backsides, preferring to live on social security, rather than get a job - whilst we have to try to find, and pay foreign workers, to do the jobs. A stupid, top-heavy legal system, which seems is designed simply to line the pockets of lawyers. An NHS, which simply cannot cope, yet we open the doors wide, to people who have never contributed a penny to the system, and move them straight to the front of the queue, whilst those who have paid in, might wait months.

 

[transam]

In my opinion, that is the direction things are going. A once great, and influential country, in massive decline, failing to properly police its own borders, making illegal immigrants over welcome, whilst ignoring the needs of its own needy. A government, unable to make any hard decisions, constantly doing U-turns because they get it so obviously wrong. Politicians lining their own pockets. Thieves, walking into shops, loading up with shopping, and walking out, and the police unable/unwilling to bother doing anything about it, just dishing out crime numbers. A major part of the able bodied population, sat on their backsides, preferring to live on social security, rather than get a job - whilst we have to try to find, and pay foreign workers, to do the jobs. A stupid, top-heavy legal system, which seems is designed simply to line the pockets of lawyers. An NHS, which simply cannot cope, yet we open the doors wide, to people who have never contributed a penny to the system, and move them straight to the front of the queue, whilst those who have paid in, might wait months.

Pretty much sums it up

 

[Notch7]

In my opinion, that is the direction things are going

You think that because Farage has told you how to think

in massive decline

Yeah due to 45 years of Tory policy

And you want to vote Reform to accelerate the decline

failing to properly police its own borders

The U.K. has no control over who leaves France.

whilst ignoring the needs of its own needy

I presume you are referring to those lazy benefit scroungers you talk about.

A government, unable to make any hard decisions, constantly doing U-turns because they get it so obviously wrong

What hard decisions…oh you mean like not sending out the navy to bomb the small boats


you voted for Boris Johnson, he constantly made U turns

Thieves, walking into shops, loading up with shopping, and walking out, and the police unable/unwilling to bother doing anything about it, just dishing out crime numbers

So how much do you want taxes increased by to increase police numbers?

A major part of the able bodied population, sat on their backsides, preferring to live on social security, rather than get a job

That’s just a lie

The number of benefit cheats is a small percentage

An NHS, which simply cannot cope

So how much your tax do you want to pay

yet we open the doors wide, to people who have never contributed a penny to the system,

Oh you mean those fit men of fighting age.

Funny how one minute they are super fit fighting men, the next minute they are constantly at the doctors or in hospital.


Seriously Harry have listen to yourself

 

[JP_]

 

[Brigadier]

and he tells people that some of those asylum seekers will be sent back to be tortured and executed

You have to be joking.

That **** is thinner - skinned than his hero the Orange Rapist : he'll throw the titty-babby of all titty-babbies and flounce off, rather than answer such a question truthfully.

 

[Deleted member 317777]

It feels like there is so much unhappiness in the West. Parties on both extremes are gaining popularity. That didn't end well in the 1930s.

It’s going to be different this time.

 

[Harry Bloomfield]

Said nowt much!

The illegals, before Brexit, were breaking into lorries, clinging under their chassis to get here. Some of that continues, even today, but they developed a new method in the meantime, inflatable, massively over-loaded boats, where the illegals pay a relatively large sum of money, for the 'privilege' to gangs. Nowt much to do with Brexit, the illegals discovered they would be given a warm, and comfortable welcome, once here, and the gangs found they had a nice little earner, business opportunity, in providing a ferry service.

 

[blup]

To stop the boats he will need to stop the votes, dictatorship here we come.

 

[Vinty]

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I read somewhere that illegals have turned to use small boats to get into the UK because security at Ports and airports is too risky for most illegal migrants.
Don't know whether that's is true though.

 

[JP_]

I read somewhere that illegals have turned to use small boats to get into the UK because security at Ports and airports is too risky for most illegal migrants.
Don't know whether that's is true though.

Most are refugees, and wouldn't get permission to take a flight out of they country. So walking out and then travelling across lands is usually the only option. Whether they land at Heathrow or get picked up by the cost guard or police, i think they'll have to go through the same process though.

 

[yorksbuilder]

Stupid argument that it's caused by Brexit. Beefed up security at Calais caused them to turn to boats.

Deploy a stinger mid channel?

This country defended itself for centuries against invasion, now it pays government employees to go and pick up foreigners daily from the middle of the English channel