Are the border force and the RNLI losing their touch?

[denso13]

Eh

The RNLI get called out by the Coastguard if required.

 

[aveatry]

The RNLI get called out by the Coastguard if required.

So the coast guard are on constant patrol - they see a dinghy in our waters and pull alongside --- "are you in distress" --- "Yes" --- "ok hang tight we will call the lifeboat for you"

 

[aveatry]

Or do we go and apprehend them because the are illegally entering our territory and we then detain them in a secure location. Is that what happens, is that how our government protects its citizens from unknown persons with unknown intentions and unknown origins.

 

[Si_]

A point utterly unrelated to the question I asked

That's because you were begging the question. That is, presupposing an unproven premise.

 

[denso13]

So the coast guard are on constant patrol - they see a dinghy in our waters and pull alongside --- "are you in distress" --- "Yes" --- "ok hang tight we will call the lifeboat for you"

No, they don't patrol at all, good question though.

What we do

HM Coastguard is more than a 999 emergency service. From counter-pollution to search and rescue, learn how we protect people, our coast and the environment.

hmcoastguard.uk

 

[denso13]

Or do we go and apprehend them because the are illegally entering our territory and we then detain them in a secure location. Is that what happens, is that how our government protects its citizens from unknown persons.

Seriously? No, generally that isn't what happens.

 

[MNW67]

That's because you were begging the question. That is, presupposing an unproven premise.

That makes no sense.

A poster wrote that we should return all asylum seekers to their home country.

I queried whether that should include those facing torture; an obvious and logical follow up question.

Then you posted some random nonsense about whether I thought men of good character would leave their families.

 

[Mottie]

So is the UK. So Are the countries they travelled through to get to France. What's your point?

Can’t you read? My point is they don’t risk their lives travelling across any other European land borders to get from one safe country to another.

 

[noseall]

Can’t you read? My point is they don’t risk their lives travelling across any other European land borders to get from one safe country to another.

Of course they do. Their whole journey is perilous, especially for the more vulnerable, weaker ones.

 

[Si_]

I queried whether that should include those facing torture; an obvious and logical follow up question.

Don't despair, you're getting there. Keep that focus and the light will dawn.

Begging the question - presupposing an unproven premise... Can you spot where you might have done this? I've given you a tiny hint, see if you can spot it.

 

[Mottie]

I have stoped giving anything to the RNLI free economic migrant taxi service, they should charge the government for these "rescues" £10k a time if they must do it.

A lorry driver is charged with£10k if he brings an asylum seeker across, so why do the RNLI get away with not being charged?

 

[Mottie]

Of course they do. Their whole journey is perilous, especially for the more vulnerable, weaker ones.

So walking from safe Italy to safe France to safe Germany is perilous? Grow up.

 

[noseall]

So walking from safe Italy to safe France to safe Germany is perilous?

Yes.

Grow up.

?

 

[MNW67]

Don't despair, you're getting there. Keep that focus and the light will dawn.

Begging the question - presupposing an unproven premise... Can you spot where you might have done this? I've given you a tiny hint, see if you can spot it.

I knew what you were getting at.

I am just pointing out that it is argumentative and deflectionary nonsense. The sort of silly debating tricks which bore me senseless.

 

[Si_]

I knew what you were getting at.

I am just pointing out that it is argumentative and defletionray nonsense.

What, specifically, is nonsense? Your lack of evidence that boat arrivals face death and torture if returned, or that if you keep your focus you'll get there in the end?