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Are the border force and the RNLI losing their touch?

carmanmemoranda said:
If people want to attack me, filly, mbk, and you to an extent, what do you expect?

I notice you don't tell them to lighten up, but you are always keen to "have a go" at me. Ever since I picked you up on comments that argued against themselves.
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You think I attack you?
 
fillyboy said:
On what basis were 'charities' able to mount legal challenges to have the Air France flight cancelled yesterday. Smells of ECHR?
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A legal challenge seems to have prevented it, yet agsin.

'The French are reported to have said they will only be accepting a small initial contingent of deportations.
Ministers have previously said the scheme will ramp up the number of deportations over time.'
 
diy_fun_uk said:
Imagine a future where your great great great grandchild is seeking refuge in a foreign country, instigated after the collapse of the UK. No legal routes out were available.

He/She is on a boat headed for the shore of said foreign country.
The boat is struggling under the weight.
Surely the country will assist, seeing those on board are in trouble.
Nope. They sit and watch. They do nothing.
Your grandchild thrice removed drowns.
They're dead.

I prefer to think that countries will rescue migrants if need be, however backed up by an extremely robust processing system.
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So you do have thoughts of the collapse of Britain, but it is not just Britain that is in danger it is the whole of Europe and that is why you are seeing and hearing about other European Countries also beginning to react.
 
rds60h said:
Without paper work or passports it is very difficult to prove countries of origin thus making returning them more difficult, so this creates the need to stop those crossing before they enter British Waters instead of aiding that and towing boats back to where they came from where it can be seen that returning the boats is happening and become a deterrent. That and withdrawing any housing and instead set up Camps of tents (the French aren't even supplying that) and stop all benefits payments to anyone entering the country, there should not be a system that rewards those just arriving whilst penalising those born here and it is this that is creating Inequality and Social Division.
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Great shudda, cudda, wudda speech, but somewhat bereft of reality and bereft of solutions.
 
rds60h said:
Without paper work or passports it is very difficult to prove countries of origin thus making returning them more difficult, so this creates the need to stop those crossing before they enter British Waters instead of aiding that and towing boats back to where they came from where it can be seen that returning the boats is happening and become a deterrent. That and withdrawing any housing and instead set up Camps of tents (the French aren't even supplying that) and stop all benefits payments to anyone entering the country, there should not be a system that rewards those just arriving whilst penalising those born here and it is this that is creating Inequality and Social Division.
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That is undoubtedly a massive problem. But your proposed solution isn't possible without the agreement of France.

We could, however, offer them a lot worse conditions once they are here, as you suggest. That might have some effect.
 
carmanmemoranda said:
If people want to attack me, filly, mbk, and you to an extent, what do you expect?

I notice you don't tell them to lighten up, but you are always keen to "have a go" at me. Ever since I picked you up on comments that argued against themselves.
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If you think I attack you I really do apologise.
 
carmanmemoranda said:
Great rant again

But, how to stop them? Which is what I asked what your thoughts on.

Towing them back? Stop all benefits?

You do understand legal requirements?
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He already told you several pages back that the first step would be to remove the UK from the ECHR, you responded by saying our soldiers fought for us to be in the ECHR, that's when I intervened by saying I doubt any soldiers would have fought in NI to protect the right for them to be arrested at a later date and charged with murder, then you started cockwombling as per.
 
rds60h said:
So you do have thoughts of the collapse of Britain, but it is not just Britain that is in danger it is the whole of Europe
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NO
Britain is not collapsing nor is the "whole of Europe"

what we are seeing is the rise of right wing populism using asylum seekers to unite the people against a common enemy



the real danger is Right wing populism
 
rds60h said:
, so this creates the need to stop those crossing before they enter British Waters
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you cant push back boats in French waters

and you cant push back boats from British waters back into French waters

rds60h said:
t and towing boats back to where they came from where it can be seen that returning the boats is happening and become a deterrent.
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no you cant tow boats back to France

all France would do is prevent them being unloaded at the dock

rds60h said:
withdrawing any housing and instead set up Camps of tents
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yes the tent camps can be set up in your town

sorted


rds60h said:
stop all benefits payments to anyone entering the country,
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asylum seekers cant access the benefits system


rds60h said:
there should not be a system that rewards those just arriving whilst penalising those born here and it is this that is creating Inequality and Social Division.
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there is not such a system

those born here are not penalised
 
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