Mandatory ID cards (Brit Card) to be announced tomorrow

You'll need it to get into places as well?? Good grief...
You'll need it for whatever they deem you need it for.
Need to collect a parcel from the post office? Want to buy a few beers from Lidl?
Want a gym membership?
Want to ride the gravy train?
Want to have a cigar?
 
The government could spend those billions building some detainment camps for single male adult asylum seekers. That would be a much more effective way of calming the current hysteria in the country.
 

Additional information:​

  • The digital ID system is designed with best-in-class security at its core. Digital credentials will be stored directly on people’s own device - just like contactless payment cards or the NHS App today.
  • The system uses state-of-the-art encryption and authentication technology that’s already protecting millions of digital transactions daily. If a phone is lost or stolen, the digital credentials can be immediately revoked and reissued, providing better security than traditional physical documents.
  • The new digital ID will be the authoritative proof of who someone is and their residency status in this country. It will therefore include name, date of birth, information on nationality or residency status, and a photo - as the basis for biometric security – just like an eVisa or Passport. The consultation will consider whether including additional information, like address, would be helpful.

So that is settled - it is intended to be the single form ID.

beyond crazy, even for Labour

Every Cyber criminal will be rubbing his hands.
 
And the difference between copying driving licence/passport, or etc is ????

None.
Nobody can copy my driving licence and passport if they are in my pocket.

I expect hackers, and those that are against it to go to great lengths to prove that this idea is flawed.
The hackers will see this as 'challenge accepted', wouldn't you want to be the greatest hacker in the world?
 
Nobody can copy my driving licence and passport if they are in my pocket.

I expect hackers, and those that are against it to go to great lengths to prove that this idea is flawed.
The hackers will see this as 'challenge accepted', wouldn't you want to be the greatest hacker in the world?
they'll p*** so much money up the wall making it happen and failing.

There are quite a few polls in the papers today and they are showing 70-80% are against the idea.
 
Then when the system has a technical glitch, thousands of people will be stranded at airports whilst others will be turned away from their GP appointments.

My mate was livid when he went down to the the Co-op to find that they had no milk, after they'd been hacked and couldn't stock their shelves.

We as a nation, aren't ready for this.
 
Then when the system has a technical glitch, thousands of people will be stranded at airports whilst others will be turned away from their GP appointments.

My mate was livid when he went down to the the Co-op to find that they had no milk, after they'd been hacked and couldn't stock their shelves.

We as a nation, aren't ready for this.
People don't understand. But they will. Right now it's just an inconvenience when, say, you don't receive your SMS code for online banking and have to wait to log on.

Just wait until we can do literally nothing - travel, eat, access our money, heat our houses, drive our cars - when the 'system' goes down, or is unavailable, or hacked, or your data is corrupted or wrong or any of dozens of eventualities which will without question all happen.
 
It could certainly be abused by an authoritarian. There are more safeguards here than in the USA, thankfully. But can you imagine what Trump would do with power over such information.
A certain Austrian corporal got IBM to help develop a card punch system of ID...

It facilitated the rounding up of Jews and was used in the logistics of the holocaust...

The Auschwitz tattoo was the IBM generated number!
 
It will cost a lot of money, mostly to get the data into the system, not building it.

There's a lot of renting about 'hackers' here but what do people expect to be 'hacked?'.

The most likely serious incident for the system would be a mass leak of personal data. But the data included isnt that sensitive.

The most likely concern for individuals would be someone being able to use the system to impersonate them to get access to banking services or benefits claims etc. So you have to assess if this service will be more or less secure than the current reality.
 
Just wait until we can do literally nothing - travel, eat, access our money, heat our houses, drive our cars - when the 'system' goes down, or is unavailable, or hacked, or your data is corrupted or wrong or any of dozens of eventualities which will without question all happen.
And that is the point...

People say 'what's the difference' as they already have various forms of ID...

But they are not interlinked, so for example if DVLA goes down it doesn't affect you should you wish to board a flight or complete a transaction...

ID database down (and as mentioned it will happen) or the computer 'says no', then you are screwed...

Put everything under one system and it becomes 'entrusted'...

A single number used for everything...

When errors happen (and they will), how will you prove who you are?

Unlike now when very often multiple forms of ID are asked for in certain circumstances for good reason...

This is a 'solution' looking for a problem!
 
There's nothing stopping them from applying for them, if they need to prove who they are.

You don't just get driving licences, utility bills, and property, by simply applying for them, a passport is not cheap just to have in case.
 
they'll p*** so much money up the wall making it happen and failing.

There are quite a few polls in the papers today and they are showing 70-80% are against the idea.

People, including especially those in this forum, don't like change, don't like anything new. I have used digital payments for years, one single failure, of one digital card in all of that time, and easily resolved.
 
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