20 point Gaza peace plan (Is Trump one step closer to Nobel Peace Prize?)

[Notch7]

They are still not a state. Gaza is currently being rum by a terrorist organisation.

is that the same Hamas Netanyahu has been supporting for many years?

 

[fillyboy]

It's raison d'etre was opposition to the Israeli occupation.

Wrong. it's raison d'etre was the destruction of Israel, and the denial of Israel's right to exist.

 

[Notch7]

Be better if Hamas were in the talk, not just dictated to. And before the, "So, you want to negotiate with terrorists then!", derision rolls over me- ask the people of NI how things are now, having done just that leading to the GFA.

Donald Trump has talked AND negotiated with the Taliban and Putin.

(not a criticism, just agreeing with Charliegolfs comment on negotiating with terrorists)

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[fillyboy]

is that the same Hamas Netanyahu has been supporting for many years?

If you're referring to him allowing Qatari money to flow to Hamas yes, he acted as Qatar's bagman thinking it would keep them quiet. Bad move.

 

[Notch7]

Wrong. it's raison d'etre was the destruction of Israel, and the denial of Israel's right to exist.

Netanyahu has been carrying out exactly that on Gaza.

 

[Knave of Hearts]

Wrong. it's raison d'etre was the destruction of Israel, and the denial of Israel's right to exist.

Hamas is an acronym of the Arabic phrase حركة المقاومة الإسلامية or Ḥarakah al-Muqāwamah al-ʾIslāmiyyah, meaning "Islamic Resistance Movement". This acronym, HMS, was glossed in the 1988 Hamas Covenant by the Arabic word ḥamās (حماس) which itself means "zeal", "strength", or "bravery".

Hamas - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

To be a resistance movement there needs to be something to be resisted.

 

[fillyboy]

Donald Trump has talked any negotiated with the Taliban and Putin.

What does that even mean?, I've tried re-arranging the words and it still doesn't make sense.

 

[MNW67]

What does that even mean?, I've tried re-arranging the words and it still doesn't make sense.

Change "any" to "and". Possibly. My best guess, anyway.

 

[Knave of Hearts]

What does that even mean?, I've tried re-arranging the words and it still doesn't make sense.

Change the "y" for "d"

 

[Notch7]

If you're referring to him allowing Qatari money to flow to Hamas yes, he acted as Qatar's bagman thinking it would keep them quiet. Bad move.

Netanyahu did it to perpetuate the conflict, to create division and delegitimize the Palestinian cause for statehood.

The polar opposite of what you claim.


You must have a big thick book of Israeli propaganda playbook

 

[Notch7]

What does that even mean?, I've tried re-arranging the words and it still doesn't make sense.

Oops

Sausage fingers on a small screen.

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[MNW67]

You must have a big thick book of Israeli propaganda playbook

Somewhat tautological.

 

[blup]

Oops

Sausage fingers on a small screen.

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I always suspected you were Prince Charles

 

[fillyboy]

Netanyahu did it to perpetuate the conflict, to create division and delegitimize the Palestinian cause for statehood.

The polar opposite of what you claim.


You must have a big thick book of Israeli propaganda playbook

My understanding is that it was to undermine the PA, keep Hamas quiet and undermine the PA.

Why Netanyahu Enabled Qatari Cash Transfers to Hamas

THE MYTH OF STARVING HAMAS, AND THE CASH THAT KEPT IT AFLOAT

morningtruth.substack.com

 

[Knave of Hearts]

My understanding is that it was to undermine the PA, keep Hamas quiet and undermine the PA.

Why Netanyahu Enabled Qatari Cash Transfers to Hamas

THE MYTH OF STARVING HAMAS, AND THE CASH THAT KEPT IT AFLOAT

morningtruth.substack.com

Netanyahu doesn't want the PA to be involved in Gaza neither because he fears a strong untied Palestinian Government.