Reform voters are a dying breed?

[Notch7]

I do not like posting this, but these are the lyrics a current politician used to sing

I can’t imagine anybody on here making excuses for such behaviour…….

 

[SPLINE]

I'm surprised Kevin and Karen aren't the most common nanames

More anti-British hate from Notch.

Look at that split between degree/no degree

So what? The majority of the population does not have a degree.

 

[Highway Man]

More anti-British hate from Notch.

Exactly

 

[diy_fun_uk]

If I had to choose between a Reform and Greens government, the former would get my vote.

 

[IT Minion]

So what? The majority of the population does not have a degree.

It's a massive difference between the more educated and less educated parts of the population.

Education doesn't always line up with intelligence, but there is a lot of correlation.

 

[Notch7]

the threats the country is facing.

The biggest threat in this country is right wing populism.

The biggest problem in this country is wealth inequality.

Spline wants to vote to make both worse.

 

[diy_fun_uk]

The biggest threat in this country is right wing populism.

The biggest problem in this country is wealth inequality.

Spline wants to vote to make both worse.

I was watching a tv prog a few weeks back about civilizations that have ruled and then fallen over the centuries. One of the topics covered was this:

The "overturning of Rome" usually refers to the Fall of the Western Roman Empire in 476 AD, when Germanic chieftain Odoacer deposed the last Emperor, Romulus Augustulus, ending centralized Roman rule in the West after centuries of decline from barbarian invasions, economic issues, and political instability.

The theme across most of the examples given was a growing unrest across the masses e.g. being taxed too much, those at the top hording the wealth, people working for low wages being exploited etc. Eventually, the masses snap leading to the downfall of government, its leaders etc.

I suspect, if we wanted what most would consider true equality across our society, then the masses would need to overthrow the establishment. Under our current socioeconomic model, wealth inequality in this context will never significantly change.

However, let's say the masses do turn, what then fills the void? I've said this before, whatever would then follow might not necessarily be what's best for the masses that were unhappy under the old model. Indeed, in terms of our financial security on the global stage, it could be a heck of a lot worse.

 

[Notch7]

If I had to choose between a Reform and Greens government, the former would get my vote.

Zack Polanski comes across well and could’ve been the opportunity for the left to form a credible party.

But he has ruined it with his views on trans rights in women’s safe spaces and his policies on immigration.
Plus the Green Party attracted the most toxic Corbyn cultists.

 

[diy_fun_uk]

Zack Polanski comes across well and could’ve been the opportunity for the left to form a credible party.

But he has ruined it with his views on trans rights in women’s safe spaces and his policies on immigration.
Plus the Green Party attracted the most toxic Corbyn cultists.

He's maybe a good communicator, how (for me) he doesn't come across well as (for me) many of his longer term plans are too left base. A world without borders? Emmm, no thanks. Landlords forced to sell property to tenants at below market value? Emmm, no thanks. etc etc.

It's the same with the new Your Party. Zara Sultana was on a news prog this morning and raised their plan for businesses to be run in a cooperative manner e.g. owned by the employees, better sharing of profits etc. When asked if this transition would be compulsory for businesses, she didn't rule that out.

 

[fillyboy]

I was watching a tv prog a few weeks back about civilizations that have ruled and then fallen over the centuries. One of the topics covered was this:

The "overturning of Rome" usually refers to the Fall of the Western Roman Empire in 476 AD, when Germanic chieftain Odoacer deposed the last Emperor, Romulus Augustulus, ending centralized Roman rule in the West after centuries of decline from barbarian invasions, economic issues, and political instability.

The theme across most of the examples given was a growing unrest across the masses e.g. being taxed too much, those at the top hording the wealth, people working for low wages being exploited etc. Eventually, the masses snap leading to the downfall of government, its leaders etc.

I suspect, if we wanted what most would consider true equality across our society, then the masses would need to overthrow the establishment. Under our current socioeconomic model, wealth inequality in this context will never significantly change.

However, let's say the masses do turn, what then fills the void? I've said this before, whatever would then follow might not necessarily be what's best for the masses that were unhappy under the old model. Indeed, in terms of our financial security on the global stage, it could be a heck of a lot worse.

Did they mention 'uncontrolled immigration'?, that apparently played a large part in the fall of the Roman Empire.

 

[SPLINE]

It's a massive difference between the more educated and less educated parts of the population

In the past, even fewer people had degrees. Blair changed that, creating a world of worthless degrees in the quest for equality, whilst brainwashing the young into voting Labour.

The theme across most of the examples given was a growing unrest across the masses e.g. being taxed too much ...
I suspect, if we wanted what most would consider true equality across our society, then the masses would need to overthrow the establishment.

DIYFUN makes a realisation! (But keeps it at arm's length).

Zack Polanski comes across well

Could you henceforth describe him as "Far-Left Zack Polanski, real name David Paulsden".

 

[morqthana]

It's a massive difference between the more educated and less educated parts of the population.

Education doesn't always line up with intelligence, but there is a lot of correlation.

So does that mean that motorbiking's idea of increasing people's level of education to make them more skilled and better off

people should be helped and motivated to develop more valuable skills so they are worth more money.

will tend to make them less likely to vote for the party he most likes?

 

[morqthana]

"Far-Left Zack Polanski, real name David Paulsden".

What's your problem with somebody wanting to reclaim his familial name and celebrate his Jewish heritage? Racism, anti-semitism, or both?

 

[diy_fun_uk]

Did they mention 'uncontrolled immigration'?, that apparently played a large part in the fall of the Roman Empire.

If I'm going to be honest I can't remember. It was the first in the series mentioned below. I think migrants were mentioned however in what context I can't recall.

It's a BBC series 'Civilisations: Rise and Fall'

 

[IT Minion]

So does that mean that motorbiking's idea of increasing people's level of education to make them more skilled and better off



will tend to make them less likely to vote for the party he most likes?

Causation or correlation. Are people voting Reform because they're badly educated or are they voting Reform and badly educated because they're thick?

Or are they not voting Reform because they've been brainwashed by having more education?

There is some evidence that if you're not very clever you're more likely to vote for right wing parties, but it's not something with great evidence behind it.