Who owns Britain?

I think you're attempting to break a very complex world full of people into noddy language.

Blair managed to bend the Labour party more towards being Tory, and basically not being itself. It was a struggle but they were reasonably successful, but with many issues, including 100,000s of dead people in the middle east for no apparent reason.

This current lot are basically 1970s union-run mobsters. Plus many including Starmer himself are members of the bonkers Fabian society religious cult, which is basically a belief that whatever brand of leftyism they persuade the public they are, the undercurrent is a steady march towards Marxism. Together with killing lots of people they don't like. This all sounds ridiculous (because it is), but it's absolutely what they are on record as being about.

I believe you need to be pretty ignorant of reality to support the current lot. Farage and co are undoubtedly flawed, but are definitely far less worrying than what we currently have.
 
Notch7 said:
So you think it is a known fact that right wing is correct and left wing is wrong.

or to put it another way: your opinion is that you are right and people with differing views to you are wrong

is that an accurate summary of Ivor Windybottom?
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Of course whichever way you are. Left or right views you will assume your views are correct. Do you think that your views are correct and the right wing views are wrong?
 
Ivor Windybottom said:
That's increasingly true... people are becoming more polarised. Those who were in the middle are picking a side and joining it, mostly because they think the other lot are terrible.

The left have been using tactics borrowed from religious cults for the last couple of decades. Basically brainwashing techniques. So their supporters are a lot like believers, and are very difficult to reason with. A lot like Jehovah's Witnesses, left-wing people build their social circles around their political beliefs. Anyone who sees the light and decides to challenge any of these beliefs will be shunned and ousted by their friends. It's a very powerful way of controlling the minds of humans, who are fundamentally social creatures. The JWs have been doing this for decades, it works really well for them.
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What a lot of word salad just to say that anybody who isn't as far right as you is a lefty.

It's just not true
 
Ivor Windybottom said:
I think you're attempting to break a very complex world full of people into noddy language.

Blair managed to bend the Labour party more towards being Tory, and basically not being itself. It was a struggle but they were reasonably successful, but with many issues, including 100,000s of dead people in the middle east for no apparent reason.

This current lot are basically 1970s union-run mobsters. Plus many including Starmer himself are members of the bonkers Fabian society religious cult, which is basically a belief that whatever brand of leftyism they persuade the public they are, the undercurrent is a steady march towards Marxism. Together with killing lots of people they don't like. This all sounds ridiculous (because it is), but it's absolutely what they are on record as being about.

I believe you need to be pretty ignorant of reality to support the current lot. Farage and co are undoubtedly flawed, but are definitely far less worrying than what we currently have.
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Trying to portray the current lot as far left.

You are so far to the right you can't see anything else
 
Highway Man said:
Of course whichever way you are. Left or right views you will assume your views are correct. Do you think that your views are correct and the right wing views are wrong?
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I dont

I believe in facts.

it is my view that 45 years of Neo liberalism has led to a country with significant wealth inequality. I believe that because it is supported by the evidence

it is my view that the wealthy in this country use their power and wealth to influence govt to create policy that makes them wealthier

it is my view that Nigel Farage is a public school, ex stockbroker elitist, because evidence shows he is

it is my view that Reform are just the Tories because all te evidence shows that is true

it is my view that Nigel farage and Reform would be bad for this country because he is a free market libertarian which cares only about making the wealthy more wealthy........the evidence shows that to be true

it is my view that brexit was and still is a bad idea. I believe that because it is supported by the evidence

it is my view that Farage is a right wing populist who is manipulating the voters using populist strategy to achieve. I believe that because it is supported by the evidence



You only want to vote for Nigel Farage because "he makes Highway Man smile" -that is simply an emotional response it has no basis in fact
 
Ivor Windybottom said:
Farage and co are undoubtedly flawed, but are definitely far less worrying than what we currently have.
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if you think that you are:

Ivor Windybottom said:
pretty ignorant of reality
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the thing is Ivor you obviously voted for Boris Johnson -how did that turnout huh?

so your track record isnt exactly very good............and Nigel Farage is exactly like Boris Johnson: a populist who has skills in campaigning and zero ability to govern
 
Notch7 said:
I dont

I believe in facts.

it is my view that 45 years of Neo liberalism has led to a country with significant wealth inequality. I believe that because it is supported by the evidence

it is my view that the wealthy in this country use their power and wealth to influence govt to create policy that makes them wealthier

it is my view that Nigel Farage is a public school, ex stockbroker elitist, because evidence shows he is

it is my view that Reform are just the Tories because all te evidence shows that is true

it is my view that Nigel farage and Reform would be bad for this country because he is a free market libertarian which cares only about making the wealthy more wealthy........the evidence shows that to be true

it is my view that brexit was and still is a bad idea. I believe that because it is supported by the evidence

it is my view that Farage is a right wing populist who is manipulating the voters using populist strategy to achieve. I believe that because it is supported by the evidence



You only want to vote for Nigel Farage because "he makes Highway Man smile" -that is simply an emotional response it has no basis in fact
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I believe in Nigel because facts speak for themselves. Nigel makes me and the whole country smile. Evidence shows that.
 
Ivor Windybottom said:
Is this a problem, and what do you think should be done about it?

The current government are very unlikely to be the answer.

The answer presented by many is communism. Which is a dirty word, so they normally call it something else. E.g. The Green Party.
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Data from World Inequality Report also showed top 10% of income-earners earn more than the other 90%.

Obviously i think it's a problem. Clearly you do not.

There's no middle ground on this issue.

If you don't think such a vast disparity of wealth in the world is a problem i can't help you.
 
Highway Man said:
I believe in Nigel because facts speak for themselves. Nigel makes me and the whole country smile. Evidence shows that.
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What facts?

Ive yet to see a single Farage supporter ever discuss any policy of his -not that he has any

Evidence shows that only 25% of the people have a favourable view of him, the rest know he is cucking funt
 
Just swap MAGA for Reform (y)

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