Make Britain Great Again

Notch7 said:
Yeah take benefits from people with a terminal illness they will soon get better
Yeah take benefits from people with progressive diseases they will soon get better
Yeah take benefits from people who are full time carers, their relative will soon get better
Yeah take benefits from the disabled….they will soon get better
Yeah take benefits from the blind, they will soon start to see ok and get a job
Yeah take benefits from women suffering PTSD from domestic violence, they will soon get better.


Munroast says: there is nobody that actually needs benefits, the Daily Mail told him.
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I am not suggesting benefits being stopped - just paid in a different way, vouchers for healthy food, vouchers for heat and light, free access to swimming and gyms

the country has a major benefit and health problem, how would you sort it out ?

Notch7 said:
Munroast would you shoot people dead?
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I wouldn't, couldn't do anything like that, would even campaign against it. - but there are many who would, and do you know what, it would save lives in the long run, the crossing would stop and the accidental drownings would too - within a year less people would have lost their lives
 
Munroast said:
I am not suggesting benefits being stopped - just paid in a different way, vouchers for healthy food, vouchers for heat and light, free access to swimming and gyms

the country has a major benefit and health problem, how would you sort it out ?
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Wages that are good enough to live on should be the aim. That alone would reduce the need for benefits. But it's not an overnight cure, it's a direction. That needs to be started

Paying pensioners in vouchers. I couldn't think of a worse insult to their years of work and sacrifice
Munroast said:
I wouldn't, couldn't do anything like that, would even campaign against it. - but there are many who would, and do you know what, it would save lives in the long run, the crossing would stop and the accidental drownings would too - within a year less people would have lost their lives
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No sane person would even put it up as a thought, let alone a consideration
 
Munroast said:
I am not suggesting benefits being stopped - just paid in a different way, vouchers for healthy food, vouchers for heat and light, free access to swimming and gyms

the country has a major benefit and health problem, how would you sort it out ?
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what makes you think the UK has a major benefits problem?


If I was sorting it out, I would start by finding out the actual data: ie how many are not genuine and how many are genuine


Around the corner from me there are some flats which have people in them that are in no way capable of work........I see them walking up to the corner shop buying their groceries (at a high price).


Munroast said:
I wouldn't, couldn't do anything like that, would even campaign against it.
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but you literally put it forward as a solution

Munroast said "we could install machine gun posts along the top of the white cliffs, that would sort it out sharpish"
 
Notch7 said:
what makes you think the UK has a major benefits problem?


If I was sorting it out, I would start by finding out the actual data: ie how many are not genuine and how many are genuine


Around the corner from me there are some flats which have people in them that are in no way capable of work........I see them walking up to the corner shop buying their groceries (at a high price).



but you literally put it forward as a solution

Munroast said "we could install machine gun posts along the top of the white cliffs, that would sort it out sharpish"
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The media, including the BBC & Guardian - We need to get people back to work, too easy to do nothing now and live well on benefits

our country is on the edge of bankruptcy, we need to be gearing up to a war footing to halt Putin, we're all going to have to be a lot poorer and work harder or we will all end up going down the pan


you take it out of context, I was answering a ridiculous post with another ludicrous unworkable solution, I even included pritti & suella.
due to the 'you're welcome' message sent out by the do-gooder' an estimated 9000 migrants lost their lives during illegal crossing to europe in 2024 - that is a lot of souls.
 
Munroast said:
The media, including the BBC & Guardian - We need to get people back to work, too easy to do nothing now and live well on benefits

our country is on the edge of bankruptcy, we need to be gearing up to a war footing to halt Putin, we're all going to have to be a lot poorer and work harder or we will all end up going down the pan


you take it out of context, I was answering a ridiculous post with another ludicrous unworkable solution, I even included pritti & suella.
due to the 'you're welcome' message sent out by the do-gooder' an estimated 9000 migrants lost their lives during illegal crossing to europe in 2024 - that is a lot of souls.
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You do go on about immigrants taking homes from the homeless then demonise the homeless as benefits scroungers. The lot of you twist your tiny minds into knots trying to justify the implicit racism in your pov.
 
Odds said:
You do go on about immigrants taking homes from the homeless then demonise the homeless as benefits scroungers. The lot of you twist your tiny minds into knots trying to justify the implicit racism in your pov.
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don't think I have ever said the homeless are the benefit scroungers, but you are correct in identifying that mass inward immigration is denying our vulnerable a decent roof over their heads

And i'm not trying to deny anyone benefits, just suggesting it shouldn't be paid in cash, which is often wasted on smking, booze and drugs, which often compounds their situation.
 
Highway Man said:
It is very true, a lot of people are better off than if they worked, some refuse to work as it isn't worth their effort. These are the types that need to have benefits suspended
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What percentage of people on benefits is that?
 
spile said:
People want instant answers and a quick fix. There isn’t one - it’s going to be a hard slog.
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Interesting how the voters were happy to give Tory 14 years to sort things out, but don’t give Labour 20 months.
 
Munroast said:
but you are correct in identifying that mass inward immigration is denying our vulnerable a decent roof over their heads
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You don’t care about our vulnerable…you only care when you want to use them as an argument against immigrants.

You call them lazy scroungers who can’t be trusted with money.


The problem with your argument is that you are punching down.
Why do you think rich multi millionaires like Farage desperately want to blame the lowest in society? (A = because it deflects from the real cause which is multi millionaires)
 
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