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The other delicious irony of course, is that there are more people like me than there are like you
No, there really aren't.

The other delicious irony of course, is that there are more people like me than there are like you
No, there really aren't.

Yep, going downwards.According to the polls
Do you actually believe this stuff?...
It matters not.Do you actually believe this stuff?...

extremists?The number of people who HATE Labour is small. You, and Ivor, and the other extremists here are in a very small minority.
Aye, we're all far-right extremists now. All 86% of us.extremists?

Do you still consider yourself as central ?Aye, we're all far-right extremists now. All 86% of us.
There are several graphical indicators on here which suggest pretty much the opposite thing. Most of the coloured lines I think are quite predictable, especially Labour and I think that this is probably down to one specific man, who I need not name. He has certainly brought in many changes which, I think, are not to anyone's interest and I suspect that this is primarily down to his not having any real idea what to actually do. A defence lawyer who seems to have one specific motivation: to object to anything remotely right wing.Do you actually believe this stuff?...
Another expert, Lord Robert Hayward, said that the result appears to confirm that support for Nigel Farage’s Reform is “in decline”.
He pointed to a poll commissioned by former Tory treasurer Lord Ashcroft

I'd describe the graph as not giving much comfort to those who are claiming a significant rightward shift.How would you describe the shape of that red line? Come on, give it your best propaganda. Just a progressive death that keeps finding new lows.
I'd suggest a general collapse of all of them, apart from the trendy Green vote. Trying to lump Reform with the Tories is a false premise, because the latter have also fallen heavily. I should add that lumping the Tories in as the 'Right' is incorrect; they have become more like the Limp Dems.I'd describe the graph as not giving much comfort to those who are claiming a significant rightward shift.
At the start of this year, Labour + Lib Dem + Green was 48%, Conservative + Reform 46%.
The figures are now 44% and 48%.
Neither a collapse on the left or a surge on the right.

the members have simply been repeating what they have all said before.

The interesting change in my mind, though, is the Greenies. Why have they suddenly risen from a small not-particularly political organisation? My suspicion is that many of our young people are not politically motivated (nor knowledgeable) but somehow feel the need to pipe up against the more established parties.
That suggests to me that not only have an increasing number of thinking voters realised that Reform is now our only real hope for the future
and the possible restoration of what was once a proud and strong country.
Just my own opinion, of course, but time will tell. That, of course, depends upon whether they, or indeed anyone, can hope to restore the immense damage that has already been done to our country over not much more than a year of Labour.

Trying to lump Reform with the Tories is a false premise, because the latter have also fallen heavily. I should add that lumping the Tories in as the 'Right' is incorrect; they have become more like the Limp Dems.