Trumps attack on Iran - 2026 edition

[King Billy]

I direct you once more to post #347.

Why don't the people who live in <insert any dictatorial regime country here> want to leave and live somewhere else? Think about it.

I suspect the UKers living in Iran will have suffered a lot less hatred and discrimination, and felt a lot safer than the Iranians in UK.
British society is determined to split itself down ethnic and religious lines, driven by racial hatred.
The Reform party are intent on fomenting that hatred and returning UK back to a country of systemic racism.

 

[diy_fun_uk]

I suspect the UKers living in Iran will have suffered a lot less hatred and discrimination, and felt a lot safer than the Iranians in UK.
British society is determined to split itself down ethnic and religious lines, driven by racial hatred.
The Reform party are intent on fomenting that hatred and returning UK back to a country of systemic racism.

WEST IS BEST
WEST IS BEST
WEST IS BEST

 

[King Billy]

For those wondering why Iran is hitting everyone in the region: after the most recent strikes on Iran and the numbers of rockets destroyed in their launches they moved to a command and control model where they respond with pre defined target lists if there are attacks incoming and contact with central command is lost.

Or in other words: the previous Trump strikes made the retaliation worse this time as Iran learnt from the experience.

It's legitimate and justifiable to attack your enemies military bases.
If other countries are content to have those bases in their country, and allow USA to launch attacks from them, what on earth do they expect?

Similarly, Starmer has now added UK to Iran's list of legitimate and justifiable targets.

 

[mikehammer69]

This attack on Iran is illegal is it not ?

Although illegality usually comes into play when it’s the other side doing it

 

[King Billy]

Nope.

Their 'morality' police beat a young woman to death. Read that again, their morality police. Why? They deemed her head scarf to be on a little too loosely.

They, the men folk, know fine well what they're up to. All cloaked with the excuse of gods, heaven, blah blah blah.

Oh yeah, like western (Uk USA, etc) countries have never killed anyone in custody?
UK and USA, etc ask protesters nicely if they'll please go home, and not disagree with their country's policies.

 

[King Billy]

This doesn't look good now for the Iranian citizens to uprise as they will more than likely be too afraid. We might now see a massive escallation from this attack. We have plenty of them over here now in our country at the moment to give us a big problem. If only our government had them locked up in garrisons rather than in hotels all over the country.

That'll work, a flimsy excuse to arrest anyone not being fully white.
Wasn't that happening somewhere else recently?

 

[King Billy]

I am talking about the illegals in the hotels, they should have been in camps untill we can identify who they are, we now have lots of unknowns freely walking around who shouldnt even be here.

Asylum seekers are here legally.
So if the government know where these illegal immigrants are, and already have them in detention, why don't they deport them back to their country of origin?
Or are you just mouthing off again about something of which you are ignorant?

 

[King Billy]

It's one thing Trump saying to them from a lectern 'now is your time to rise up!', as you say unless there's a coordinated approach from the majority of the populous, putting such desires into meaningful action is surely nigh on impossible. Unless a significant portion of their authorities etc start to turn.

And if the protesters are in a minority, they'll be imprisoned for something Trump, et al encouraged them to do.

 

[SMG]

I wish some of you would look the word "Propaganda" up. Your personal thoughts, hatred for Trump, or Israel, when these Iranian commentators tell you that Hospitals & schools are targeted, & hundreds of girls are killed is just bull. The facts are that Iran has been behind most Islamic terrorist groups, they murdered thousands of their own people, trust your eyes when you see thousands on the streets cheering the death of a mass murderer.

 

[King Billy]

Only for defensive actions.

I was confused at first. But that squares the circle.

Shooting down incoming retaliatory missiles, and allowing UK bases to be used is complicit with the illegal and unprovoked attack on Iran

 

[King Billy]

Defensive means striking the bases from we’re the missiles are fired from

That’s in Iran

Quite. It's nonsensical to try to plead 'only in defense' when you're being complicit in the attack, on defensive weapons in Iran.
UK has been complicit in the defence of Israel also, while Israel launches attacks on Ira, and others.

Only in defence is a nonsensical argument when you're protecting the attacking force from retaliatory strikes. It's complicity.

 

[King Billy]

Thanks. I missed that. It raises an interesting legal question.

No question about it. If you are defending an attacking force from retaliatory strikes, you are complicit in that attack.
If you are allowing your base to be used to launch an attack, you are complicit.

It's a weasly argument to claim UK is only helping in defence, when you are assisting in the attack by freeing up valuable resources of the attacking force to join in that attack.

 

[King Billy]

Nah, even though the US started it illegally we're fine hitting Iran now from a legal perspective. It still makes us shmucks dragged into a war by the US without any say in the matter.

USA and Israel.
To keep two war mongers out of the courts.

I'm not so sure UK is behaving legally. UK was under no imminent threat from Iran.
UK, per se, is still under no imminent threat from Iran, only its military participating in the attack, or placed in harm's way in US bases.

If the initial attack was illegal, it doesn't become legal because the 'victim' retalliates.

If a robber breaks into a house, it doesn't become legal because he's confronted and meets reasonable force.

 

[King Billy]

I bet what ever is left of the Hamas leadership ??

Are asking themselves WTF did we start on Oct 7th

It didn't start on Oct 7th.
That might become in the same category as the Tonkin Incident, Iraq and WMD, Nazi Germany and the Gleiwitz incident, etc., not because it didn't really happen, but because it was caused through persistent little attacks at the edges, and then allowed to happen when it could have been stopped or discouraged,

 

[King Billy]

Trump has certainly made. the world more dangerous than ever with his ego now.

I was thinking: how the worm turns.