Take that, Trump

motorbiking said:
Do you have an example?
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Ones which immediately spring to mind:

Echelon fitness equipment
Bambu 3D printers
Futurehome home hub
HP printers
Sony - removal of Discovery titles, removal of Funimation content, camera monitor on Xperia phones turned into subscription
 
Odds said:
A Florida handyman who was sentenced on Thursday to life in prison for molesting two children had been convicted of storming the Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021, but was pardoned by President Donald Trump.

If the scum had been kept in jail it would never have happened. Nice going Donald.
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If he was white, it won't matter to the RWR on here, even if he was a child rapist. They only ever moan about or condemn the dark skinned ones. They are happy for the white ones to rape whomever they like.
 
Odds said:
A Florida handyman who was sentenced on Thursday to life in prison for molesting two children had been convicted of storming the Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021, but was pardoned by President Donald Trump.
If the scum had been kept in jail it would never have happened. Nice going Donald.
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Yep you are 100% correct -- so why do you cry when people suggest the same with illegal migrants.
 
motorbiking said:
what did they do ?
broadly
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Echelon – sold fitness bikes for several years, promoting their support for 3rd-party fitness apps, then pushed out a non-reversible firmware upgrade that stopped 3rd-party apps from working and forced owners to take out subscriptions even to use a bike they’d bought outright in basic “offline” mode.

Bambu – firmware upgrades removing/restricting integration of 3rd-party devices.

Futurehome – put into bankruptcy by owners, owners formed new company, bought bankrupt assets, pushed a firmware upgrade making a subscription mandatory for continued operation of the device, including local access from an app.

HP - new firmware that shuts off printers upon detecting a non-HP cartridge.

Sony
  • revoked all licenses to digital content that had been advertised as "forever" licenses.
  • emailed customers of updates to the terms of service (i.e. changes to the ToS which had applied when customers had signed up), including a class action-lawsuit waiver, and an update to account usage guidelines. The messaging about these changes did not mention any means of opting out of these changes or give any warning and they were effective as soon as users clicked continue on the site or continued to use the service.
  • Conversion of the External Monitor feature from a free, built-in function to a paid subscription service, affecting Xperia phones already sold to customers.
Want another one?

Amazon forcibly removing any ebooks downloaded to the Kindle app on old devices the next time they connected to the internet, without warning that this would occur.
 
Consumer Rights Act 2015: This act allows consumers to seek repairs, replacements, or refunds if a product stops working as described during its expected life, which can apply to firmware-induced functionality loss.

In the case of Futurehome it would be slightly more complex, it would depend on how the company was acquired. Could be a claim for damages or even criminal (ransomware).

With iTunes and kindle, you might need to read the terms of the license (device specific).
 
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I've now looked at the two in a bit more detail and assume that you are in the UK? the following applies. In general if the features were sold as part of the product description and have now been downgraded you have a claim within 6 years of purchase:
morqthana said:
Echelon – sold fitness bikes for several years, promoting their support for 3rd-party fitness apps, then pushed out a non-reversible firmware upgrade that stopped 3rd-party apps from working and forced owners to take out subscriptions even to use a bike they’d bought outright in basic “offline” mode.
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There are actually a few class actions claims agains the company for this, but as already stated Consumer Rights Act 2015 applies - you would bring a claim that the product was not (or rather no longer as described).
morqthana said:
Bambu – firmware upgrades removing/restricting integration of 3rd-party devices.
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The same applies if the product claimed to have features which are now locked - I did note that they have released a non-subscriber mode for those who want to maintain the extensions.
morqthana said:
Futurehome – put into bankruptcy by owners, owners formed new company, bought bankrupt assets, pushed a firmware upgrade making a subscription mandatory for continued operation of the device, including local access from an app.
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Now this one did interest me, because on the face of it you have an unlawful act. If the original product relied on server side features to work, then you'd have a problem. The company that was liquidated, would be the one liable for the claim that the product was no longer as described (as above). You'd have to get to the bottom of if the company which acquired the assets, also acquired the liabilities. If so you have a claim, I'd give that 50/50. However, more interesting, if the product did not rely on server side services previously provided and the firmware push was to lock the product, then you actually have a possible criminal case, ranging from extortion to criminal damage.
morqthana said:
HP - new firmware that shuts off printers upon detecting a non-HP cartridge.
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If it previously worked and there is nothing in the terms saying it only works with HP ink, then there is a claim. However, I think the terms do say only HP ink, so you are stuffed. Of course, you could bring an anticompetitive claim.
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Sony
  • revoked all licenses to digital content that had been advertised as "forever" licenses.
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The licence terms stated that it was not a perpetual license and they had the right to revoke.
morqthana said:
  • Want another one?

Amazon forcibly removing any ebooks downloaded to the Kindle app on old devices the next time they connected to the internet, without warning that this would occur.
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as above.
 
motorbiking said:
I've now looked at the two in a bit more detail and assume that you are in the UK? the following applies. In general if the features were sold as part of the product description and have now been downgraded you have a claim within 6 years of purchase:

There are actually a few class actions claims agains the company for this, but as already stated Consumer Rights Act 2015 applies - you would bring a claim that the product was not (or rather no longer as described).

The same applies if the product claimed to have features which are now locked - I did note that they have released a non-subscriber mode for those who want to maintain the extensions.

Now this one did interest me, because on the face of it you have an unlawful act. If the original product relied on server side features to work, then you'd have a problem. The company that was liquidated, would be the one liable for the claim that the product was no longer as described (as above). You'd have to get to the bottom of if the company which acquired the assets, also acquired the liabilities. If so you have a claim, I'd give that 50/50. However, more interesting, if the product did not rely on server side services previously provided and the firmware push was to lock the product, then you actually have a possible criminal case, ranging from extortion to criminal damage.

If it previously worked and there is nothing in the terms saying it only works with HP ink, then there is a claim. However, I think the terms do say only HP ink, so you are stuffed. Of course, you could bring an anticompetitive claim.

The licence terms stated that it was not a perpetual license and they had the right to revoke.

as above.
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Licensing?

The prohibitions in the Anthropic AI agreement with the US government were contractual.
 
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