We don’t buy their oil but we buy stuff from countries that buy their oil so we will be indirectly financing the rebuilding and rearming of their country.
Trumps attack on Iran - 2026 edition
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Israel does not want the war to stop. That's why they like to kill negotiators and potential calming leaders.
"Regional officials say there is no movement on diplomatic efforts to end the war from either side. And Israel’s killing on Tuesday of Ali Larijani, a conservative but pragmatic regime veteran, is expected to further set back hopes of a resumption of talks. He would have been integral to any diplomatic process, a regional diplomat said."
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"Regional officials say there is no movement on diplomatic efforts to end the war from either side. And Israel’s killing on Tuesday of Ali Larijani, a conservative but pragmatic regime veteran, is expected to further set back hopes of a resumption of talks. He would have been integral to any diplomatic process, a regional diplomat said."
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Trump is not as powerful as he likes to bluff.
"Henry Foy in Brussels, Anne-Sylvaine Chassany in Berlin and Barney Jopson in Madrid
Published 9 HOURS AGO
The rebuttal was swift, emphatic — and cathartic. One by one, Donald Trump’s European allies rejected the US president’s demand to join his war in the Middle East. Leaders from Warsaw to Madrid, from Washington’s closest friends on the continent to the most Trump-sceptic, closed ranks to deliver the message: “This is not our war.”
This week’s collective refusal by Trump’s European partners of his demand to help him open the Strait of Hormuz by force — or risk a “bad” future for the Nato alliance — was remarkable for its force and unanimity. It was all the more striking after two weeks of chaotic division among the continent’s capitals over his war against Iran.
“The United States of America and Israel did not consult us prior to this war,” said German Chancellor Friedrich Merz. “The question of how Germany might become militarily involved here does not arise.”
Italy, France, Greece and Spain issued similar rejections. British Prime Minister Sir Keir Starmer said the UK would “not be drawn into the wider war”. Even countries such as Poland, traditionally Washington’s most staunch transatlantic military partner, ruled out joining Trump’s proposed armada to force open the chokepoint affecting world oil supplies.
Faced with a conflict in which it risks having little leverage but much at stake, Europe has found a common voice and a joint message — one that contrasts with the deep divisions over George W Bush’s Iraq war two decades ago and which points to a deepening belief that appeasing Trump is not the only option available."
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Supporters of Israel still try to argue that Europe should do what Trump tells them.
"Henry Foy in Brussels, Anne-Sylvaine Chassany in Berlin and Barney Jopson in Madrid
Published 9 HOURS AGO
The rebuttal was swift, emphatic — and cathartic. One by one, Donald Trump’s European allies rejected the US president’s demand to join his war in the Middle East. Leaders from Warsaw to Madrid, from Washington’s closest friends on the continent to the most Trump-sceptic, closed ranks to deliver the message: “This is not our war.”
This week’s collective refusal by Trump’s European partners of his demand to help him open the Strait of Hormuz by force — or risk a “bad” future for the Nato alliance — was remarkable for its force and unanimity. It was all the more striking after two weeks of chaotic division among the continent’s capitals over his war against Iran.
“The United States of America and Israel did not consult us prior to this war,” said German Chancellor Friedrich Merz. “The question of how Germany might become militarily involved here does not arise.”
Italy, France, Greece and Spain issued similar rejections. British Prime Minister Sir Keir Starmer said the UK would “not be drawn into the wider war”. Even countries such as Poland, traditionally Washington’s most staunch transatlantic military partner, ruled out joining Trump’s proposed armada to force open the chokepoint affecting world oil supplies.
Faced with a conflict in which it risks having little leverage but much at stake, Europe has found a common voice and a joint message — one that contrasts with the deep divisions over George W Bush’s Iraq war two decades ago and which points to a deepening belief that appeasing Trump is not the only option available."
FT.com
Supporters of Israel still try to argue that Europe should do what Trump tells them.
Has always been so with various countries
But hey ho
The cycle will continue rebuild / destroy
So on and so forth
Dare say the mad mullers have got enough embezzled funds in Zurich (?) to rebuild
Japan and various European countries have issued a joint statement suggesting there may yet be involvement in protecting the Hormuz Strait.
Watch this space.
To achieve absolutely nothing? Sure, he could ruin his reputation even further and that's all he really cares about.
Japan's prime minister was treading carefully during her meeting with Donald Trump, US correspondent David Blevins says.
He describes it as being a "tricky meeting" for Sanae Takaichi, not least because Japan is one of the allies that chose not to respond to Trump's plea for help in relation to the Strait of Hormuz.
"She countered that by saying 'only you, Donald, can achieve peace'
Clever gal. Far too savvy for that moron.
The rest of the sane world are not interested in Don's war boyo, especially not EU nations.
Has the US started running any convoys through yet? No? I wonder why...
(I don't, because it is risky for the escort vessel which would have limited time to engage incoming weapons, limited manuvering room and if any civilian escorted ships are damaged then they look like clowns)
Iran was supposed to be a pushover according to Don. Surely he just needs to say the word and The Strait will be open and secure?
He looks weaker by the day.
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Israel can't supply all the missiles themselves. They can't even afford to buy all the missiles themselves. The only way Israel can carry out this war is because of US support.
Semantics. Optics.
The US has supported Israel for decades. Israel didn't need The Donald to mess this up. In fact negotiations were going well. Too well for the Israelis, hence the whispers in Dons ear by Bibi, a tug on Dons leash and here we are.
It's a bad situation made worse by Trump-US involvement.
The bit between your ears?
Trump attempts unicycling backwards. Convinces nobody.
"Neri Zilber in Tel Aviv, James Politi and Steff Chávez in Washington
Published 4 HOURS AGO
Updated16:45
Donald Trump blamed Israel for this week’s strike on Iran’s South Pars gasfield, saying he “knew nothing” of the operation that has badly rattled energy markets.
But his account went against that of officials familiar with the operation, who said the strike — one of the most sensitive of the war so far — was co-ordinated with Washington in advance.
The contradiction lays bare a familiar pattern: a president seeking to manage the political and economic fallout of escalation even as the military campaign he launched grows more expansive and its end more uncertain.
The strike on a vital energy hub — and Iran’s swift retaliation against Qatar’s liquefied natural gas infrastructure — underscores how rapidly the nearly three-week-old war has spiralled into a broader regional and economic crisis."
FT.com
"Neri Zilber in Tel Aviv, James Politi and Steff Chávez in Washington
Published 4 HOURS AGO
Updated16:45
Donald Trump blamed Israel for this week’s strike on Iran’s South Pars gasfield, saying he “knew nothing” of the operation that has badly rattled energy markets.
But his account went against that of officials familiar with the operation, who said the strike — one of the most sensitive of the war so far — was co-ordinated with Washington in advance.
The contradiction lays bare a familiar pattern: a president seeking to manage the political and economic fallout of escalation even as the military campaign he launched grows more expansive and its end more uncertain.
The strike on a vital energy hub — and Iran’s swift retaliation against Qatar’s liquefied natural gas infrastructure — underscores how rapidly the nearly three-week-old war has spiralled into a broader regional and economic crisis."
FT.com