Trumps attack on Iran - 2026 edition

How will the upcoming attack on Iran go.

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fillyboy said:
That report long predates October 7
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And yet we haven't attacked or declared war with either Russia or China - why is that?

"Whilst Iran's activity appears to be less strategic and on a smaller scale than Russia and China, Iran poses a wide-ranging threat to UK national security..."

There was and still is no need for the UK to go to war with Iran. This is Trump's folly. No one else is interested in his war boyo, no matter how full your mouth is. Sucker.
 
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JohnD said:
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None of the countries you mention have offered to join in Israel's war.

They all told Trump to F.O. with his demands for aircraft carriers, minesweeper and so forth.

They are willing to facilitate negotiations, except that Israel keeps assassinating anybody in Iran who might be a negotiator or might be willing to form a different government.

Nothing they like better.
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The United Kingdom, France, Germany, Italy, the Netherlands and Japan have said they will consider preparing a mission to help lift Iran’s blockade in the Strait of Hormuz. No timeline has been set, and Germany and the Netherlands say a ceasefire or at least a cessation of hostilities is a precondition for their participation.

So, maybe, sometime, in the uncertain future perhaps, possibly, the United Kingdom, France, Germany, Italy, the Netherlands and Japan might send big ships to escort bigger ships through the dire straits...the diplomatic international language for "don't call us, we'll call you."
 
fillyboy said:
Good old Donald. Didn't tell other countries because he wanted an element of surprise, and Japan knows all about surprises. lol.

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A stunning lack of diplomatic courtesy, consistent with the total lack of class shown by trump - it's like the German chancellor going to Jerusalem and comparing their treatment of Palestinians to the Holocaust.
 
Odds said:
So, maybe, sometime, in the uncertain future perhaps, possibly, the United Kingdom, France, Germany, Italy, the Netherlands and Japan might send big ships to escort bigger ships through the dire straits...the diplomatic international language for "don't call us, we'll call you."
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Is this to protect our ships from Trump/Bibi or Iran?
 
blup said:
Thank God we blew up their gas field then. Feeling safer from terrorist threats already. Check what’s in your pasties.
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I'm amused to note Dork thanked your post - does he recognise sarcasm at all?
 
Odds said:
Hard to say at this point - Israel is pushing for a ground invasion and if trump is persuaded to send in the marines who knows where it could end.
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A ground invasion was always on the cards, they can't defeat Iran with airpower alone.
Trump knew that all along but he didn't tell his supporters at the beginning because they may have not been so enthusiastic to start the war in the first place.
Getting into war is easy but getting out without losing face is difficult.
If Trump called off the war now, the Iranians would claim victory and be in an even stronger position than before the war, so Trump has no choice but carry on until the Iranian state collapses and to achieve that objective may require a ground invasion.
 
Vinty said:
A ground invasion was always on the cards, they can't defeat Iran with airpower alone.
Trump knew that all along but he didn't tell his supporters at the beginning because they may have not been so enthusiastic to start the war in the first place.
Getting into war is easy but getting out without losing face is difficult.
If Trump called off the war now, the Iranians would claim victory and be in an even stronger position than before the war, so Trump has no choice but carry on until the Iranian state collapses and to achieve that objective may require a ground invasion.
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Israel looks like it has all it can handle in southern Lebanon right now, as well as keeping a force in Gaza to maintain the 'ceasefire', so it'll be incumbent upon American Marines to go into Iran: a country larger than Iraq with a population over 90mn. Good luck with that Donald.

An assault on Iran would mean trump waving goodbye to any hope in the midterms, losing the Senate/House (or both) and becoming a lame duck for the remaining two years of his tenure. Go ahead Donny; make my day.:mrgreen:
 
Vinty said:
Getting into war is easy but getting out without losing face is difficult.
If Trump called off the war now, the Iranians would claim victory and be in an even stronger position than before the war, so Trump has no choice but carry on until the Iranian state collapses and to achieve that objective may require a ground invasion.
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One of the biggest surprises of the war is why Iran turned it's firepower on neighbouring Arab countries, some of which could have loosely been described as allies at various times.
The result is that the whole of the middle east has turned against Iran and that may well translate into more countries determined to see the end of the IRGC.
 
Odds said:
Israel looks like it has all it can handle in southern Lebanon right now, as well as keeping a force in Gaza to maintain the 'ceasefire', so it'll be incumbent upon American Marines to go into Iran: a country larger than Iraq with a population over 90mn. Good luck with that Donald.
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And the Kurds, they're already on the move and the way things are going (see above) there may be other Arab countries willing to lend a hand.
 
Odds said:
I'm amused to note Dork thanked your post - does he recognise sarcasm at all?
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It was Highwayman who thanked, at least my system said so. HM isn't without independence of thought, he's certainly not a Filly.
 
blup said:
It was Highwayman who thanked, at least my system said so. HM isn't without independence of thought, he's certainly not a Filly.
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If independence of thought means supporting Arab terrorism, no thanks.
 
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