Who’s going to tell them that the answer is immigration?

[Highway Man]

Q: can more benefits be gained by asylum seekers than uk residents?

A: No, UK residents are eligible for a wider range of comprehensive welfare benefits and typically receive significantly higher financial support than asylum seekers.

OMG I should think so !!!!!

 

[Mottie]

 

[Odds]

Dunno if you’ve noticed but Labour are in power now. Been in for a couple of years. What have they done to rebalance the economic system?

Nothing.

The contributions from NI hasn't made a jot of diff. to the benefits sys. for some time now.

 

[Mottie]

Q: can more benefits be gained by asylum seekers than uk residents?

A: No, UK residents are eligible for a wider range of comprehensive welfare benefits and typically receive significantly higher financial support than asylum seekers.

You seem upset about that.

 

[Odds]

You seem upset about that.

 

[Mottie]

Nothing.

The contributions from NI hasn't made a jot of diff. to the benefits sys. for some time now.

Pension credit is not paid from the NI pot.

 

[King Billy]

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Most of those extra benefits are available to all families on low income.

 

[King Billy]

Pension credit is not paid from the NI pot.

The NI income does not cover the State Pension bill neither.
It's merely an eligibility scheme.

 

[Odds]

Pension credit is not paid from the NI pot.

Then what is your ref. to NI contributions about?

 

[Mottie]

Q: can more benefits be gained by asylum seekers than uk residents?

A: No, UK residents are eligible for a wider range of comprehensive welfare benefits and typically receive significantly higher financial support than asylum seekers.

Once asylum is granted though….Happy days eh?

 

[Mottie]

Then what is your ref. to NI contributions about?

If they don’t pay NI, they get their whack from the tax pot. Who pays into the tax pot…….

 

[Odds]

Once asylum is granted though….Happy days eh?

If asylum is granted after due process i assume it's deserved.

 

[King Billy]

Once asylum is granted though….Happy days eh?

It's not just asylum, it depends on other factors, age, income, indefinite leave to remain visa, etc.
Asylum only grants temporary leave to remain.

 

[King Billy]

If they don’t pay NI, they get their whack from the tax pot.

Only those eligible.

 

[King Billy]

The New Poor Law reform of 1834 induced dramatic and heterogeneous reductions in welfare spending across English and Welsh counties. Using the reform in a difference-in-differences instrumental variables strategy, we document a robust negative relationship between the generosity of welfare provision and criminal activity. Results are driven by non-violent property crimes and are stronger during months of seasonal agricultural unemployment, highlighting the particularly criminogenic combination of welfare cuts and precarious work opportunities for the economically vulnerable.

https://academic.oup.com/ej/article/133/651/1248/6798382

We can fund the low income families, or we can penalise them by forcing them into criminality.
And therefore fund the justice system to deal with them and accommodate them.

My preference is to maintain, even improve the safety net.