'It's gone too far'

[aveatry]

No - the accepted definition of trolling is along the lines of antagonising people online by deliberately posting inflammatory, irrelevant, or offensive comments or other disruptive content, or posting to ‘bait’ people, by deliberately provoking an argument or emotional reaction, in some cases by saying things they don’t even believe, just to cause drama.

What you've described is actually due diligence to ensure that someone's position is fully understood, and provable.




No - the accepted definition of trolling is along the lines of antagonising people online by deliberately posting inflammatory, irrelevant, or offensive comments or other disruptive content, or posting to ‘bait’ people, by deliberately provoking an argument or emotional reaction, in some cases by saying things they don’t even believe, just to cause drama.

What you've described is actually being thorough to ensure that my position is properly elucidated, and that in replies to others to unsure that all of their points are properly addressed.




No - the accepted definition of trolling is along the lines of antagonising people online by deliberately posting inflammatory, irrelevant, or offensive comments or other disruptive content, or posting to ‘bait’ people, by deliberately provoking an argument or emotional reaction, in some cases by saying things they don’t even believe, just to cause drama.

What you've described is, again, actually being thorough.




No - the accepted definition of trolling is along the lines of antagonising people online by deliberately posting inflammatory, irrelevant, or offensive comments or other disruptive content, or posting to ‘bait’ people, by deliberately provoking an argument or emotional reaction, in some cases by saying things they don’t even believe, just to cause drama.

Troll professes his innocence of being a troll ........by trolling

 

[morqthana]

Troll professes his innocence of being a troll ........by trolling

So your definition of "trolling" is now "explaining the truth to you".

Interesting.

 

[Justin Passing]

aveatry said:

trolling behaviour is going on and on about something

No -

YES,
that's just one of the forms. As are repeatedly posting irrelevant twaddle, or the same opinion over and over, nit picking trivial details, and what you do a lot is distorting the meaning of what someone says so you can rail against it.
Tiresome, old chap.


"So your definition of "trolling" is now "explaining the truth to you"."
What you're seeing as explaining the truth, others see as fault-ridden b0l1ocks posted for no reason except to boost your ego, which backfires because you get it wrong....
See?

 

[morqthana]

YES,
that's just one of the forms.

No. You can't just invent a new meaning for a word which already exists and claim that it therefore applies to something when the recognised definition does not support that.

You might as well, with as much validity and sense, claim that a troll is anybody with a space in their user name.

As are repeatedly posting irrelevant twaddle,

I don't post irrelevant twaddle. I can understand your desire to characterise it as such, if it challenges prejudices and erroneous beliefs you have.

or the same opinion over and over,

If there's a limit to how many times people are allowed to post the same opinion, for example Islam is a threat to this country, I'd be interested to see your authoritative source for it.

nit picking trivial details, and what you do a lot is distorting the meaning of what someone says so you can rail against it.

I don't distort the meaning of what people say. But there is a problem, which I do sometimes expose, that people don't always give sufficient thought to what they say, and don't recognise the real implications of it.

"So your definition of "trolling" is now "explaining the truth to you"."
What you're seeing as explaining the truth, others see as fault-ridden b0l1ocks posted for no reason except to boost your ego, which backfires because you get it wrong....
See?

Another problem here is that some people are very hard-of-seeing.

 

[Odds]

Is that why he posted it? Good gawd!
I did wonder what he thought it portrayed, but never imagined he was that moronic.
On reflection, you must be right.

you should read links whenever provided.

 

[Odds]

You need to take a closer look at that graph. What has Covid got to do with brexit?

That's a standard response from the Leave campaign who try to conflate the two issues since both occured around the same time; muddying the waters and making it harder to discern the economic effects of Bre*it...independent opinion has already filtered out the effect of the pandemic on the UK economy and still the numbers don't look good.

 

[fillyboy]

That's a standard response from the Leave campaign who try to conflate the two issues since both occured around the same time; muddying the waters and making it harder to discern the economic effects of Bre*it...independent opinion has already filtered out the effect of the pandemic on the UK economy and still the numbers don't look good.

Eejit, look at the graph.

 

[Odds]

Eejit, look at the graph.

read the link.

 

[Odds]

That graph does not represent my life or somehow has made any difference to it, should I be worried or something?

That depends if you've read the most recent independent study, from Stanford University, which finds that by 2025 Brexit had reduced UK GDP by 6% to 8% compared with what it would have been. Investment shrank by between 12% and 18%, while both employment and productivity were reduced by 3% to 4%.

 

[fillyboy]

That depends if you've read the most recent independent study, from Stanford University, which finds that by 2025 Brexit had reduced UK GDP by 6% to 8% compared with what it would have been. Investment shrank by between 12% and 18%, while both employment and productivity were reduced by 3% to 4%.

It could be worse.

We could be Germany.

 

[Highway Man]

That depends if you've read the most recent independent study, from Stanford University, which finds that by 2025 Brexit had reduced UK GDP by 6% to 8% compared with what it would have been. Investment shrank by between 12% and 18%, while both employment and productivity were reduced by 3% to 4%.

But none of that has changed my life. If I read the report in what way would it affect my day to day or what difference should I notice. I understand if I was running a multi million pound business trading with Europe it would affect me but like most people we just aren’t.

 

[motorbiking]

An easy to understand graph for folk who are still finding the impact of Bre*it hard to grasp.

Brexit Factbase

Covid. I think you mean.

 

[Highway Man]

It is very entertaining when someone comes onto a thread as an expert in Brexit after reading a snippet from Google or a news page and posts up a graph explaining how this has all affected us. Only to find the graph that they are displaying isn’t the right graph and they are talking on the wrong thread about an unrelated subject. Even funnier when they insult you over it.

 

[fillyboy]

It is very entertaining when someone comes onto a thread as an expert in Brexit after reading a snippet from Google or a news page and posts up a graph explaining how this has all affected us. Only to find the graph that they are displaying isn’t the right graph and they are talking on the wrong thread about an unrelated subject. Even funnier when they insult you over it.

We should set the greyhounds on him.

 

[Justin Passing]

recognised definition

recognised by whom? By YOU, maybe, but you don't particularly matter. You don't seem to care what rules or norms you break, judging by what you post.

I don't post irrelevant twaddle.

You CONSTANTLY post irrelevant twaddle

If there's a limit

Common sense provides a limit but that's something you don't have

I don't distort the meaning of what people say

You CONSTANLY don't understand, or pretend you don't understand, what someone wrote or meant.

Another problem here is that some people are very hard-of-seeing.

You are, yes.
Sometimes you have to pick up what someone means , beyond the words they use.

Nobody wants some boring person always trying to "expose" what HE thinks might not be quite right. or what he thinks he can contrive into a criticism.

You've done it to me, but you do it repeatedly to everyone else as well. The problem is that you don't see things any way but the one which suits you, to support your constantly posting crap. Maybe you don't think norms apply to you, or you just want to constantly have YOUR opinion on every ****** post out there because you think you matter more than the rest of us, or something.
News for you, you need to wind your neck in because people get fed up with your repeated annoying posts.

You can't say the mods haven't deleted LOADS of them, can you?
QED you are wrong according to the norms/rules which are here.
If you think the rules should be different, find another forum. They aren't going to change for a persistent habitual, self-important troll.

I'm a mod on a forum where there are many mods. Rule number one is "Don't be a jerk". There's a little debate behind the scenes if one of us wants a sanity check, but not a lot. It's pretty obvious. You wouldn't last a day.