The Black Professor

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motorbiking said:
written in 2015, but I agree about the academic standards. I would guess it would be unusual for a polyversity graduate to make Cambridge as a professor. Perhaps he was a target because of some belief of positive discrimination/action,
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There were two stages: were his cv/phd and other relevant claims accurate, secondly was his appointment positive discrimination?. If he fails at the first hurdle, the debate around the second is scuppered because positive discrimination or not, he got the job on the basis of a flawed cv.
 
motorbiking said:
I can't make my mind on this story..

On the one hand the plagiarism in his PhD thesis and lies on his CV are widely reported and obvious on the other was he targeted originally by a journalist because hie was black?

Originally the Journalist who started contacting him about inconsistencies was reported to the police for harassment with a racial hate motive, but as Cambridge's youngest black professor, he perhaps should have anticipated the scrutiny. I wonder how many PhD have significant plagiarism?

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From what I've read the plagiarism has paled into insignificance compared to the numerous other lies he's told.

One of his early defenders was James Obrien who's since done a u turn and says he feels like he's been taken for a mug,
 
blup said:
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There were two stages: were his cv/phd and other relevant claims accurate, secondly was his appointment positive discrimination?. If he fails at the first hurdle, the debate around the second is scuppered because positive discrimination or not, he got the job on the basis of a flawed cv.
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I get what you are saying, but the logic isn’t sound.

He could have benefitted from positive discrimination on top of his inflated claims.
 
motorbiking said:
I get what you are saying, but the logic isn’t sound.

He could have benefitted from positive discrimination on top of his inflated claims.
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Yes., almost certainly, it is very difficult for organisations like Oxbridge to reflect ethnicity when the country has such crap state education. I would bring back grammar schools or even more selective schools to hot house the brightest pupils.
 
blup said:
Yes., almost certainly, it is very difficult for organisations like Oxbridge to reflect ethnicity when the country has such crap state education. I would bring back grammar schools or even more selective schools to hot house the brightest pupils.
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That doesn't benefit society much. What we need is those that get failed by education to get something that helps them. Too many youngsters (often boys) leave school with almost noting and are set for low paid life long jobs.
 
motorbiking said:
That doesn't benefit society much. What we need is those that get failed by education to get something that helps them. Too many youngsters (often boys) leave school with almost noting and are set for low paid life long jobs.
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But many become successful businesses despite not because of their education. Burnam is onto to something when he talks up more technical training. I was fortunate to be a naturally good reader but to be dyslexic in an education system based on reading and writing must be hellish.
 
blup said:
But many become successful businesses despite not because of their education.
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Certainly some do.
blup said:
Burnam is onto to something when he talks up more technical training.
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Its not a new thing, but anything that can give a person a path to learning that is not - give up and try to get a job is a good thing.
blup said:
I was fortunate to be a naturally good reader but to be dyslexic in an education system based on reading and writing must be hellish.
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it is and it doesn't stop there. For some however, the extra attention they have to pay, can mean they pick up on things others miss.
 
The MSM have only just cottoned on to this story, but it has been meat and potatoes for us extreme far-right extremists for a good while now. Simon Webb in 2023...

 
the problem with any form of research is there is a risk of unintentional plagiarism. You read 100s of articles, books etc. have discussions, and formulate opinions, and then write your own work up, and some of what you say is obviously influenced by what you have studied - that is the whole point really. With AI tools now, it is probably easier to determine when somebody's work might have been influenced by anothers, and without reference.

If the same level of scrutiny was applied to every research paper ever written, similar patterns would probably emerge.
 
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