Two tier justice, place your bets

A leftie is someone who's politics is on the left.
a person who's politics is on the right, is not a fascist.

Glad I could help.

By that logic a leftie isn't necessarily a Communist either.

But Fascism has been redefined since WWII, morphing into a conglomorate of opinions on 'repatriating' migrants and immigrants alike. They make little or no distinction between anyone of ethnic origin, regardless of their political opinion.

When you see a horde of black shirts descending in force to block the entry of migrants then your thoughts instantly go back to the failed attempts of Oswald Mosely in the 1930s.

They failed to change public opinion then.

They will fail again.
 
Most historians conclude that while we are not seeing a direct rerun of the 1930s, elements of fascist ideology have morphed into modern right-wing populism and authoritarian movements that continue to challenge democratic societies today...

“This is now about the future of western civilisation. Do we believe in a Judeo-Christian culture? Do we believe that the family is a unit for good? Do we believe in free speech? … This is how high the stakes are.”
Nigel Farage, founder of Reform UK, September 2022

“Mass deportation now, set fire to all the ********* hotels full of the ********* for all I care, while you’re at it take the treacherous government & politicians with them … If that makes me racist, so be it.”
Lucy Connolly, childminder from Northampton, July 2024

“It’s not just Britain that is being invaded, it’s not just Britain that is being r*****d. Every single western nation faces the same problem: an orchestrated, organised invasion and replacement of European citizens is happening.”
Tommy Robinson, far-right influencer, September 2025

If it squeaks like a Fascist, then a Fascist it be.
 
They're missing the racial element (and other points) essential to the fascist party.
Says you the expert in Fascism. That's not a requirement for a Fascist party, although they often go hand in hand.

And even then, no, you're wrong. For example National Action is explicitly racist. Who knows what 'other points' you're going to make up to exclude any political parties from being Fascist.
 
By that logic a leftie isn't necessarily a Communist either.
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But Fascism has been redefined since WWII, morphing into a conglomorate of opinions on 'repatriating' migrants and immigrants alike. They make little or no distinction between anyone of ethnic origin, regardless of their political opinion.
that doesn't make them fascist. The definition is a label attached by people on the more extreme left.
When you see a horde of black shirts descending in force to block the entry of migrants then your thoughts instantly go back to the failed attempts of Oswald Mosely in the 1930s.
I see people who are protesting at what they think is an illegal migrant invasion.
They failed to change public opinion then.

They will fail again.
If you consider Tory, Reform, Restore are on the right - they seem to represent a collective majority.
 
A leftie is someone who's politics is on the left.
a person who's politics is on the right, is not a fascist.

Glad I could help.

Poor swerve attempt.

My post in answer to yours was regarding labelling people :

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Most historians conclude that while we are not seeing a direct rerun of the 1930s, elements of fascist ideology have morphed into modern right-wing populism and authoritarian movements that continue to challenge democratic societies today...

“This is now about the future of western civilisation. Do we believe in a Judeo-Christian culture? Do we believe that the family is a unit for good? Do we believe in free speech? … This is how high the stakes are.”
Nigel Farage, founder of Reform UK, September 2022

“Mass deportation now, set fire to all the ********* hotels full of the ********* for all I care, while you’re at it take the treacherous government & politicians with them … If that makes me racist, so be it.”
Lucy Connolly, childminder from Northampton, July 2024

“It’s not just Britain that is being invaded, it’s not just Britain that is being r*****d. Every single western nation faces the same problem: an orchestrated, organised invasion and replacement of European citizens is happening.”
Tommy Robinson, far-right influencer, September 2025

If it squeaks like a Fascist, then a Fascist it be.
You've rightly pointed out that these people do not want illegal immigrants in our country.
That doesn't make them fascists.
Did they ever say they want to take the monarchy down? Or democratic parliamentary system down?
Says you the expert in Fascism. That's not a requirement for a Fascist party, although they often go hand in hand.

And even then, no, you're wrong. For example National Action is explicitly racist. Who knows what 'other points' you're going to make up to exclude any political parties from being Fascist.
How come they've not been proscribed?
Explicit racism is illegal, correct?
 
How come they've not been proscribed?
Explicit racism is illegal, correct?
... National Action are proscribed ...

Also that's for terrorist organisations, not banned political groups. Being racist scumbags is bad but not all racist scumbags are violent.

Have you been denying that these parties are Fascist without even knowing the first thing about them?
 
You've rightly pointed out that these people do not want illegal immigrants in our country.

Saying mass deportations or wanging off about a Christian country is more than just saying they don't want illegal migrants here.

That doesn't make them fascists.

Not necessarily Fascists by name, in the modern sense of the word, but Fascists by nature in the age-old manner of their actions.

Did they ever say they want to take the monarchy down? Or democratic parliamentary system down?

You're getting confused with Anarchists.
 
A leftie is someone who's politics is on the left.
a person who's politics is on the right, is not a fascist.

Glad I could help.
Many "righties" on here would disagree. Intellectuals like Spliney who argue anyone to the left of Re store is a commy. Both sides can be guilty of the pigeon holing you refer to.
 
But however you characterise the black clad army, the intimidation of r n l i workers is truly chilling, The govt appears to be doing sweet fa about it.
 
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